HR1388, S3577, S277 Updated – DO NOT STOP CALLING!Update:t

HR1388, S3577, S277 Updated – DO NOT STOP CALLING!Update:t


UPDATE 3/27/09:  Go here for details about the new legislation HR1444.

IT’S BAAACK!! The Truth About HR1388, Serve America Act and The Obama Youth Army



(as expected, these amendments are being voted down partisan lines)


HR1388, S277 Serve America Act, National Service Programs bill has passed – 78 ayes, 20 nays.  Now we get to watch them pat themselves on the back.

I have started a new thread – main page – go here.

4pm eastern. The Senate is in a quorum call currently and will be holding the vote on Serve America Act later today.

Hatch (R-UT) is complimenting Mikulski on her “leadership” on this bill, and is  very pleased with this bill.  Making his final pitch to get everybody to vote for this bill.  Hatch has been muted on my tv; can’t take anymore of it.

Mikulski (D-Maryland) is moving toward final passage of this bill S277 after National Security Briefing.

Burr (R-NC) amendment cosponsored by Mikulski proposes required FBI database check for all volunteers. Voice vote – ayes have it – amendment is passed.

Vitter (R-LA) amendment – No money to ACORN or it’s affiliates.  Mikulski  (D-Maryland) brutally opposes this amendment (ranting away).  The vote is to kill this amendment – yays53- nays43.  Amendment has been killed and taxpayer money will be going to ACORN.

Update: voting on Baucus (D)  amendment – passed.  Thune (R-SD) amendment next up (Continue 35% tax deduction rate for charitable contributions) – struck down 49-48.

Update: Kirsten Gillibrand is gushing about this bill, “…harness millions of American minds…”  Go here for interesting info on Mrs. Gillibrand.  Also, Mrs. Gillibrand is an alumni of Davis, Polk & Wardwell who visits the Monster often and who is the firm that Annette Nazareth of “withdrawing from the Deputy Treasury Secretary fiasco” is a partner.  Annette Nazareth had a formidable role at the SEC in changing the rules that created the derivative problem we are now facing.

Update: 3/26/09 – Voting on Amendments to this bill will continue at 2:30pm eastern today.

Update: 6:38am 3/26/09: More debate today – this is tracking with the “vote later this week” comment I saw somewhere in my travels.  I will continue to update this post as the day progresses.


(Update: The Senate is still debating this bill.  No vote as of yet.  The votes that they have had today are all on amendments.  As an aside – America is waking up; I had over 800 “searches” yesterday for HR1388 and today the little site is up to over 300 for HR1388 and S277.  America IS waking up and the Congress better start paying attention.)

For those of you (and you know who you are – 46 times on the same page) who are still using IE 6.0….WTF?  Time to change to Firefox.

March 25, 2009 1:21 am Eastern

There are reports floating around the Internet that the GIVE ACT (HR1388)/National Service Reauthorization Act (S3577)/Serve America Act (S277)  has been passed by the Senate in a 74-14 vote according to Kate Phillips of The Obama NY Times.  Sorry for those of you that want us to stop burning up the Senate’s switchboard and are using Obama’s primary voter suppression tactics with the following article.  S277 – Serve America Act HAS NOT BEEN VOTED ON YET. I am not putting up the link for good reason; Google the title of the Obama Times article by Kate Phillips.

Now pay attention people:

The House passed HR1388 last week, S3577 was voted cloture on the 19th, and now has been bundled into S277 and is expected to be voted on “later this week”.   It almost seems like they want to confuse you, huh?

National Service Corps Bill Clears Senate Hurdle

Following overwhelming House passage last week, the Senate tonight voted 74 to 14 on a procedural move that essentially guarantees a major expansion of a national service corps, a cornerstone of volunteerism that dates back to the era of President Kennedy. It’s akin to a call to arms by President Obama, who has harkened back to those early days to demand giving back by those who voted for him.

The NY Times wants you to believe that this is a done deal and everything is over.  Look at the wording, “…the Senate tonight voted 74 to 14 on a procedural move“….  Want to see what they actually voted on?  The cloture motion to stop debate and filibustering.

The Library of Congress – Thomas:

Received in the Senate. Read twice. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 35.
Cloture motion on the motion to proceed to the measure presented in Senate. (consideration: CR S3577; text: CR S3577)
Motion to proceed to measure considered in Senate. (consideration: CR S3592-3601)
Cloture on the motion to proceed to the measure invoked in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 74 – 14. Record Vote Number: 108. (consideration: CR S3600-3601; text: CR S3600)

or this, GovTrack:

NATIONAL SERVICE REAUTHORIZATION ACT–MOTION TO PROCEED — (Senate – March 19, 2009)<p><center><pre>[Page: S. 3577]

Sen. Harry Reid [D-NV]: Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that it be in order to proceed to Calendar No. 35, H.R. 1388, the National Service Reauthorization Act.

Chair: Without objection, it is so ordered.

Sen. Harry Reid [D-NV]: Mr. President, I now move to proceed to Calendar No. 35, H.R. 1388, and I send a cloture motion to the desk.

Chair: The cloture motion having been presented under rule XXII, the Chair directs the clerk to read the motion.

Chair: The bill clerk read as follows:

Chair: Cloture Motion

Chair: We, the undersigned Senators, in accordance with the provisions of rule XXII of the Standing Rules of the Senate, hereby move to bring to a close debate on the motion to proceed to Calendar No. 35, H.R. 1388, a bill to reauthorize and reform the national service laws.

Sen. Harry Reid [D-NV]: Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the cloture vote occur on Monday, March 23 at 6 p.m.; and that if cloture is invoked, then postcloture time count as if cloture had been invoked at 3 p.m. that day; further, that the mandatory quorum be waived.

Chair: Without objection, it is so ordered.

or this,  U.S. Senate site:

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 111th Congress – 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate

Vote Summary

Question: On Cloture on the Motion to Proceed (Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to H.R. 1388 )
Vote Number: 108 Vote Date: March 23, 2009, 05:45 PM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Cloture on the Motion to Proceed Agreed to
Measure Number: H.R. 1388 (GIVE Act )
Measure Title: A bill to reauthorize and reform the national service laws.
Vote Counts:YEAs74
Not Voting11
Vote SummaryBy Senator NameBy Vote PositionBy Home State

Alphabetical by Senator Name

Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Begich (D-AK), Not Voting
Bennet (D-CO), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Not Voting
Brown (D-OH), Yea
Brownback (R-KS), Nay
Bunning (R-KY), Nay
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Burris (D-IL), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Yea
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Cardin (D-MD), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Casey (D-PA), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Nay
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Corker (R-TN), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Not Voting
Crapo (R-ID), Nay
DeMint (R-SC), Nay
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Ensign (R-NV), Nay
Enzi (R-WY), Not Voting
Feingold (D-WI), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Gillibrand (D-NY), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagan (D-NC), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Not Voting
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Nay
Inouye (D-HI), Not Voting
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Johanns (R-NE), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kaufman (D-DE), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Nay
Landrieu (D-LA), Not Voting
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Martinez (R-FL), Not Voting
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Nay
Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
Merkley (D-OR), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Not Voting
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Not Voting
Reed (D-RI), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Risch (R-ID), Nay
Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Sanders (I-VT), Yea
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Nay
Shaheen (D-NH), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Tester (D-MT), Yea
Thune (R-SD), Nay
Udall (D-CO), Yea
Udall (D-NM), Yea
Vitter (R-LA), Not Voting
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Warner (D-VA), Yea
Webb (D-VA), Yea
Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
Wicker (R-MS), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Yea
Vote SummaryBy Senator NameBy Vote PositionBy Home State

Grouped By Vote Position

YEAs —74
Akaka (D-HI)
Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennet (D-CO)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Brown (D-OH)
Burr (R-NC)
Burris (D-IL)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corker (R-TN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagan (D-NC)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kaufman (D-DE)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (D-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)
Wyden (D-OR)
NAYs —14
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Coburn (R-OK)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Kyl (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Not Voting – 11
Begich (D-AK)
Boxer (D-CA)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Enzi (R-WY)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Martinez (R-FL)
Nelson (D-FL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Vitter (R-LA)
Vote SummaryBy Senator NameBy Vote PositionBy Home State

Grouped by Home State

Alabama:Sessions (R-AL), NayShelby (R-AL), Nay
Alaska:Begich (D-AK), Not VotingMurkowski (R-AK), Yea
Arizona:Kyl (R-AZ), NayMcCain (R-AZ), Yea
Arkansas:Lincoln (D-AR), YeaPryor (D-AR), Not Voting
California:Boxer (D-CA), Not VotingFeinstein (D-CA), Yea
Colorado:Bennet (D-CO), YeaUdall (D-CO), Yea
Connecticut:Dodd (D-CT), YeaLieberman (ID-CT), Yea
Delaware:Carper (D-DE), YeaKaufman (D-DE), Yea
Florida:Martinez (R-FL), Not VotingNelson (D-FL), Not Voting
Georgia:Chambliss (R-GA), YeaIsakson (R-GA), Yea
Hawaii:Akaka (D-HI), YeaInouye (D-HI), Not Voting
Idaho:Crapo (R-ID), NayRisch (R-ID), Nay
Illinois:Burris (D-IL), YeaDurbin (D-IL), Yea
Indiana:Bayh (D-IN), YeaLugar (R-IN), Yea
Iowa:Grassley (R-IA), YeaHarkin (D-IA), Not Voting
Kansas:Brownback (R-KS), NayRoberts (R-KS), Nay
Kentucky:Bunning (R-KY), NayMcConnell (R-KY), Nay
Louisiana:Landrieu (D-LA), Not VotingVitter (R-LA), Not Voting
Maine:Collins (R-ME), YeaSnowe (R-ME), Yea
Maryland:Cardin (D-MD), YeaMikulski (D-MD), Yea
Massachusetts:Kennedy (D-MA), YeaKerry (D-MA), Yea
Michigan:Levin (D-MI), YeaStabenow (D-MI), Yea
Minnesota:Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
Mississippi:Cochran (R-MS), YeaWicker (R-MS), Yea
Missouri:Bond (R-MO), YeaMcCaskill (D-MO), Yea
Montana:Baucus (D-MT), YeaTester (D-MT), Yea
Nebraska:Johanns (R-NE), YeaNelson (D-NE), Yea
Nevada:Ensign (R-NV), NayReid (D-NV), Yea
New Hampshire:Gregg (R-NH), YeaShaheen (D-NH), Yea
New Jersey:Lautenberg (D-NJ), YeaMenendez (D-NJ), Yea
New Mexico:Bingaman (D-NM), YeaUdall (D-NM), Yea
New York:Gillibrand (D-NY), YeaSchumer (D-NY), Yea
North Carolina:Burr (R-NC), YeaHagan (D-NC), Yea
North Dakota:Conrad (D-ND), YeaDorgan (D-ND), Yea
Ohio:Brown (D-OH), YeaVoinovich (R-OH), Yea
Oklahoma:Coburn (R-OK), NayInhofe (R-OK), Nay
Oregon:Merkley (D-OR), YeaWyden (D-OR), Yea
Pennsylvania:Casey (D-PA), YeaSpecter (R-PA), Yea
Rhode Island:Reed (D-RI), YeaWhitehouse (D-RI), Yea
South Carolina:DeMint (R-SC), NayGraham (R-SC), Yea
South Dakota:Johnson (D-SD), YeaThune (R-SD), Nay
Tennessee:Alexander (R-TN), YeaCorker (R-TN), Yea
Texas:Cornyn (R-TX), Not VotingHutchison (R-TX), Yea
Utah:Bennett (R-UT), YeaHatch (R-UT), Yea
Vermont:Leahy (D-VT), YeaSanders (I-VT), Yea
Virginia:Warner (D-VA), YeaWebb (D-VA), Yea
Washington:Cantwell (D-WA), YeaMurray (D-WA), Yea
West Virginia:Byrd (D-WV), YeaRockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Wisconsin:Feingold (D-WI), YeaKohl (D-WI), Yea
Wyoming:Barrasso (R-WY), YeaEnzi (R-WY), Not Voting
Vote SummaryBy Senator NameBy Vote Position

and then they did this:

Please notice that the letter at the link above is dated 3/18/09, but if you scroll to the bottom, the latest date is 3/24/09.

24th Senator Hatch Lists Reasons to Support Serve America Act


(And now I am going to get back to the G20, China and the super-reserve currency because nada is happening for a few hours with this scary liberal leftist crap.)

Gun Sales, Ammunition, and Homeland Tyranny

No news yet on S3577 “The Mandatory Volunteerism Of Obama American Youth” in the Senate.  I am having to suffer through the traitor Ben Bernanke talk in circles while the Senate puts on the dog and pony show for those Americans that are still asleep and think it is real.

For those of us that are awake, please be aware that if you are a gun owner or a future gun owner, make sure you do not buy ammunition in large quantities because Homeland Security is now VISITING people that do.

Gun sales going ballistic

One northern Warren County resident found out recently the government is paying attention to such ammunition sales.

West said a customer of his recently stocked up on .223-caliber rounds, a caliber often used in assault-style weapons. The customer bought 1,000 rounds a few months ago through a mail order company. Shortly after the purchase, he received a visit from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, whose interest was apparently piqued by a large-scale purchase of that caliber.

“His wife was home. He was at church,” West said.

Imagine that!  An American citizen with a 2nd Amendment RIGHT going to church and owning guns at the same time.  Homeland Security MUST visit this man because he obviously falls under the category of domestic terrorist.
In other news; buy stock in gun manufacturers – they are booming.

Going great guns: Handheld, semiautomatic sales increase

It’s unclear how effective President Barack Obama’s policies will be in reversing the nation’s economic slide, but since his election he has proven to be a one-man stimulus package for one sector of the economy — gun sales.

Since November, sales of handguns and tactical or semiautomatic rifles have increased by 50 percent in 15 states as gun shops and sporting-goods stores like the Kittery Trading Post and Dick’s Sporting Goods have benefited from concerns, real or not, that the Obama administration will enact strict gun-control laws such as a revival of the 1994 assault weapons ban — or even, as some pro-gun Web sites have suggested, take guns away from lawful owners.

Nationwide, according to data from the FBI and the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, November gun background checks increased 42 percent from the year before. In December, background checks were up 24 percent, 29 percent in January, and 23 percent in February. Background checks are considered an indication of retail sale activity.

“We’ve had a double-digit increase in sales of handguns and tactical rifles beginning about a week before the election…,” said Fox Keim, vice president of the Kittery Trading Post. “Manufacturers can’t keep up with demand and we are seeing a backlog of orders ranging from six months to two years for certain products.”

Smith & Wesson, which has a Rochester barrel-making facility and is one of the country’s largest firearms manufacturers, reported in its most recent financial statement that hunting rifle sales were down nearly 46 percent, but “sales of all other firearms, specifically handguns and tactical rifles, were $70.7 million, a $23.8 million or 51 percent increase over the same quarter last fiscal year.”

Sturm, Ruger & Co., another major firearms company, reported that fourth-quarter 2008 sales of firearms jumped 42 percent versus the prior year, primarily due to increased sales of pistols.

Keim said ammunition sales at the Kittery Trading Post have “skyrocketed” as well and that customer feedback reveals that some gun owners are wary of the Obama administration’s gun-control plans.

“The general pro-gun public believes he will restrict gun sales or reinstate the assault weapon ban, which we believe was absolutely pointless,” Keim said.

“People are afraid and rightly so,” said Penny Dean, attorney for Gun Owners of New Hampshire. Dean believes the spike in gun sales is due to a combination of factors for lawful gun owners — the country’s fiscal crisis, rising unemployment, and fears the Obama administration will tax guns and ammunition so heavily that it will make them unaffordable.

“They are trying to price the average person out of the market,” Dean said about a piece of legislation in Congress. “If you look at Obama’s record, you know he’s not a pro-gun person. This is like normal consumer behavior. If you like spring water and hear someone is going to ban it, you’re going to bring a pickup (truck) and stock up.”

Peter Hamm, of the Washington-D.C.-based Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, questions what he sees as the “lunacy” of those who are buying guns and fear-mongering the complicated issues of gun owner rights and gun control.

“They demonized Barack Obama as the worst threat to gun ownership ever and scared people,” Hamm said. “In this economic environment, I question the sanity of extremists who are buying up guns. What kind of choices are they making for their families?”

Hamm said the spike in gun sales is “proof positive that there’s no problem in buying firearms in America.”

He also suggests that everyone take a second look at what Congress is actually doing for gun control.

“We are very disappointed with Congress on the gun issue,” Hamm said. “Congress is going in the wrong direction and trying to eviscerate gun-control laws such as the D.C. handgun ban.”

David Finkelhor, a sociology professor at the University of New Hampshire, said the current political and economic conditions have created a climate of uncertainty.

“In this recession, we are suffering from (what) economists say is a crisis of confidence,” he said. “People don’t know where things are heading and a lot of people are running nightmare scenarios.”

Finkelhor said the spike in gun sales could be “a conscious political strategy to make the news and send a message to political authorities.” But he cautions against reading too much into the gun sales increase.

“You can get a boom from a very small sliver of the population,” he said.

The political rhetoric over guns is heating up.

Wayne LaPierre, president of the National Rifle Association, said during a recent speech at the Conservative Political Action Committee that record guns sales are the result of people choosing to protect themselves.

“The Second Amendment breathes life into liberty,” LaPierre said. “The Founding Fathers understood that the guys with the guns make the rules.”

Jenn Coffey, a state representative from Andover and New Hampshire coordinator for Second Amendment Sisters, said she is not surprised by the increase in gun sales because of concerns about crime, terrorism and an administration unfriendly toward gun rights.

“We’ve seen a major increase in women becoming active and they are afraid that the government is going to disarm them and put them at risk,” Coffey said.

Gun owner Genie Jennings of South Berwick, Maine, experienced that concern firsthand.

“Gun sales are rising because a lot of people will not be able to buy the guns and ammunition they want to in the near future,” Jennings said. “The day after the election, I got calls from a variety of people who weren’t gun owners. Some I knew and some I didn’t, but they were worried they might not be able to buy what they needed to protect themselves.”

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