Leo Donofrio Supreme Court Update, 12-6-08

Leo Donofrio Supreme Court Update, 12-6-08

As has been reported by Leo Donofrio’s own site, Natural Born Citizen, his suit against Barack Obama, John McCain and  Roger Calero was to be heard in conference before all nine justices yesterday, December 5th, 2008. Here is what is being reported in the Washington Times today:

The Supreme Court held off Friday on deciding whether to grant a hearing in a long-shot lawsuit that would decide whether Barack Obama can constitutionally become president as a “natural born” U.S. citizen.

The Friday list of court orders that denies or grants hearings did not mention the lawsuit, which says Mr. Obama should be disqualified from the presidency because he purportedly acquired the same British citizenship that his father had when he was born.

A spokesman for the court said the decision on whether to hear the suit brought by retired New Jersey lawyer Leo Donofrio is likely to be announced next week.

My theory after reading  the snip from the WT is that the justices conferenced about this case yesterday, know that Donofrio has all his ducks in a row, and are trying to figure out how to throw this nuclear potato at someone else.  As Shtuey has said several times, the social contract has definitely been broken.

Foreigners: Become A US Citizen; Get Your Hawaii Birth Certificate Here!!!!

In my travels this morning I stumbled upon Wake Up America’s piece called “Hawaiian Patriots Contact Hospitals: Obama & Mom Never There?” which was based on Earth Frisk’s piece “Hospitals in Hawaii to Obama: You Were Not Born Here!”.  Here’s a little segment and then I will get to a tidbit that I personally think is very interesting and which was not covered in Wake Up America’s post:

Supposed Conspiracy Claim Turns REAL on Obama

It is becoming painfully obvious that we may very well have a criminal President in 2009. No this isn’t a joke. What I speak of is the curious developments in the supposedly racist, biased, dumb, as well as insane case of where Obama was born. Why the Barack Obama Birth Certificate Issue Is Legitimate

A strange development indeed is how it is that every time Barack Obama or a family member tells of where Obama was born, they seem to have no idea as of December 2008.
They seemed to know what hospital quite a few times months ago when it was claimed that Obama’s mother gave birth to him at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu – Obama and Mom Never Here

The Queen’s Medical Center
1301 Punchbowl StreetHonolulu, HI 96813 Link to Site
Phone number 808-538-9011 General Medical Records 808-547-4361.

After it was concluded that Obama and his mother were never there, his sister was in an interview (Mary) and claimed that Obama was born at Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children – Obama and Mom Never Here 1319 Punahou StreetHonolulu, Hawaii 96826(808) 535-7000 Link to site
Hospital after Hospital – all Have No Record of Obama being born or Mom Ever being There.

Hospital after hospital in Honolulu all have NO RECORD of Obama or mother ever being there. Is this some state secret? Are we to believe that even the hospital that he was born in should remain secret? Why lie to us as if it matters I mean the man did win the Presidential vote? Why the lies and secrecy?

We already know that Obama’s family and the entire nation of Kenya (which is about to have a national holiday for Obama) know that Barack Obama was born in Mombasa Coastal Hospital in Kenya. The government of Kenya has sealed these records. More and more secrecy due to the fact that once proven, Obama will not be constitutionally allowed to become President of the United States!

If you are interested, you can go to the Earth Frisk post and there is a complete list of hospitals on Oahu, Maui, and Kauai.

As some of you know, I  live in Hawaii, and am well aware of how the Hawaiian population thumbs their  noses at mainlanders.  What follows is  just another instance of Hawaii being Hawaii:

Hawaii Issues Birth Certificates to Foreign Born Residents!
Here’s Hawaii saying it like it it. All Doubts Cleared my Friends.

A. From Hawaii’s official Department of Health, Vital Records webpage: “Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country“ (applies to adopted children).

B. A parent may register an in-state birth in lieu of certification by a hospital of birth under HRS 338-5.

C. Hawaiian law expressly provides for registration of out-of-state births under HRS 338-17.8. A foreign birth presumably would have been recorded by the American consular of the country of birth, and presumably that would be reflected on the Hawaiian birth certificate.

D. Hawaiian law, however, expressly acknowledges that its system is subject to error. See, for example, HRS 338-17.

E. Hawaiian law expressly provides for verification in lieu of certified copy of a birth certificate under HRS 338-14.3.

F. Even the Hawaii Department of Home Lands does not accept a certified copy of a birth certificate as conclusive evidence for its homestead program. From its web site: “In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.”

Now that we all understand that you can be born in Madagascar, Russia, Norway, Brazil or even Kenya like Obama and still have a REAL birth certificate that both Snopes and Factcheck would say was real since they are real. That doesn’t mean you were born in Hawaii. Does this matter to America?
Barack Obama has as of November 27th 2008 spent over$500,000 U.S. to prevent others from seeing it. Why? Didn’t he already win the vote?

So kids, how we all feeling about that?  I am definitely going to have to stock up on Margaritas to get me through the next four years if our Supreme Court does a complete chickensh** maneuver and opts out of hearing any of the 19 Eligibility Cases against The One!!

The Scope Of The Constitutional Problem We Face….

The Scope Of The Constitutional Problem We Face….

Let’s posit that The One is something other than a natural born citizen.  I know that a good portion of the American public is not as stupid as the powers that be would like to think.   Newsprint and Television are now being challenged by everyday citizens with the Internet as their weapon of choice.  This is such a huge scam that I really do believe that The One believes that we will allow him to get away with it because the audacity of it falls under the category of “It Must Be Tinfoil Hat!”.

Have you actually taken the time to think thru the ramifications of Constitutional challenges?  For example, I started to wonder what the military commanders would have to do when they found out that The One is not an American.  Do they arrest him?  Who becomes the President?  Is this the reason why the Pentagon and other official military information systems keep showing up on my site everytime I publish anything that has to do with The One’s BC? (To the military now on my site – please remember the oath you took to protect our Constitution against all enemies; foreign and domestic.)

Annie Sweetie Oakley left a great link and I thought it would be good to share some of the thoughts with you.

From The Bulletin:

Controversy continues to surround President-elect Barack Obama’s eligibility to serve as president, and a case involving his birth certificate waits for its day before the U.S. Supreme Court. A constitutional lawyer said were it to be discovered that Mr. Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen, it would have grave consequences for the nation.

According to the Constitution, a president must be a natural born citizen of the U.S. Mr. Obama’s critics have failed to force him legally to produce his original birth certificate, and Mr. Obama has resisted any attempt to make him do so. Currently, only Hawaii Department of Health officials have access to Mr. Obama’s original records.

Some of Mr. Obama’s critics have said he was born in Kenya and have claimed he is a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia, or even a British subject.

Edwin Vieira, a constitutional lawyer who has practiced for 30 years and holds four degrees from Harvard, said if it were to be discovered Mr. Obama were not eligible for the presidency, it would cause many problems. They would be compounded if his ineligibility were discovered after he had been in office for a period of time.

“Let’s assume he wasn’t born in the U.S.,” Mr. Vieira told The Bulletin. “What’s the consequence? He will not be eligible. That means he cannot be elected validly. The people and the Electoral College cannot overcome this and the House of Representatives can’t make him president. So what’s the next step? He takes the oath of office, and assuming he’s aware he’s not a citizen, then it’s a perjured oath.”

Any appointments made by an ineligible president would have to be recalled, and their decisions would be invalidated.

“He may have nominated people to different positions; he may have nominated people to the judicial branch, who may have been confirmed, they may have gone out on xecutive duty and done various things,” said Mr. Vieira. “The people that he’s put into the judicial branch may have decided cases, and all of that needs to be unzipped.”

Mr. Vieira said Obama supporters should be the ones concerned about the case, because Mr. Obama’s platform would be discredited it he were forced to step down from the presidency later due to his ineligibility, were it to be discovered.

“Let’s say we go a year into this process, and it all turns out to be a flim-flam,” said Mr. Vieira. “What’s the nation’s reaction to that? What’s going to be the reaction in the next U.S. election? God knows. It has almost revolutionary consequences, if you think about it.”

Mr. Vieira said Mr. Obama’s continued silence and avoidance in the release of his birth certificate is an ethical issue because of the dire consequences that could be caused by a possible constitutional crisis.

“If he were my client and this question came up in civil litigation, if there was some reason that his birth status was relevant and the other side wanted him to produce the thing and he said ‘no,’ I would tell him, ‘you have about 15 minutes to produce it or sign the papers necessary to produce the document, or I’m resigning as your attorney,” said Mr. Vieira. “I don’t think any ethical attorney would go ahead on the basis that his client could produce an objective document in civil litigation [and refused to do so].”

Further, Mr. Vieira cited a fraud ruling in a 1977 case called U.S. v. Prudden, which he feels applies in this case.

“Silence can only be equated with fraud when there is a legal and moral duty to speak or when an inquiry left unanswered would be intentionally misleading,” the ruling reads. “We cannot condone this shocking conduct … If that is the case we hope our message is clear. This sort of deception will not be tolerated and if this is routine it should be corrected immediately.”

Mr. Vieira said such an ethical question of representing a client who refused to produce such a basic document is important, even in a small civil case. The current question is concerning the man who potentially could have his finger next to the nuclear button.

“[The birth certificate], in theory, should be there,” said Mr. Vieira. “What if it isn’t? Who knows, aside from Mr. Obama? Does Russian intelligence know it isn’t there? Does Chinese intelligence know it isn’t there? Does the CIA know that it isn’t there? Who is in a position to blackmail this fellow?”

Mr. Vieira explained all laws have to be submitted to the president. In the event that there is no valid president, then no laws passed by Congress in that administration would be legally null and void. Because of that, this case will probably not go away, even after Mr. Obama takes the oath of office.

“If you don’t produce it, you think it’s going to go away,” he said. “There are all these cases challenging Mr. Obama, and some challenging secretaries of state, and they run into this doctrine called standing.”

Mr. Vieira explained although legal standing is difficult to get around in Federal courts, the document could be produced in any criminal cases stemming from legislation passed in the Obama administration.

“Let’s assume that an Obama administration passes some of these controversial pieces of legislation he has been promising to go for, like the FOCA (Freedom of Choice) Act,” said Mr. Vieira. “I would assume that some of those surely will have some severe civil or criminal penalties attached to them for violation. You are now the criminal defendant under this statute, which was passed by an Obama Congress and signed by President Obama. Your defense is that is not a statute because Mr. Obama is not the president. You now have a right and I have never heard this challenged, to subpoena in a criminal case, anyone who has relevant evidence relating to your defenses. And you can subpoena them duces tecum, meaning ‘you shall bring with you the documents.’ ”

Such a criminal defense would enable the defendant to subpoena any person to testify in court and any person to bring evidence in their possession to the court.

Further, records could be subpoenaed directly, in the case of a birth certificate. Once the record could be subpoenaed, the birth certificate could be examined by forensic experts, who would then be able to testify to the document’s veracity as expert witnesses. Any movement by the judges to make a special exception to the president in a criminal case would hurt the legitimacy of that presidential administration.

“I can’t believe I’m the only lawyer who would think of this,” said Mr. Vieira. “I think any criminal lawyer defending against one of these politically charged statutes is going to come up with this. That means it will never go away until that document is laid down on the table and people say, ‘yes, there it is.’ And therefore they’re caught. If people keep challenging this and the judges out of fear keep saying ‘no, go to jail, go to jail, go to jail’ then that’s the end of the Obama administration’s legitimacy. On the other hand if they open the file and it’s not there, then that’s really the end of the administration’s legitimacy.”

I do not know how you feel about this, but the media blackout and the Anthrax testing is still pointing to this being a truer issue than just some tinfoil hat idea…

Obama Birth Certificate; Leo Donofrio; Cort Wrotnowski Updates

UPDATE ON Leo Donofrio’s and Cort Wrotnowski’s suits FROM Leo Donofrio’s site:

[UPDATE 3:12 pm]
Cort’s Docket now shows that the renewed application to Justice Scalia is dated Nov. 29. That’s the date Cort express mailed the original papers. We don’t know if they’ve passed the original papers on or if they used the new papers submitted in person today by Cort. If they used the old papers, then why was Cort told yesterday it would take seven days? Perhaps they used the new papers with the original date of filing. We don’t know.
[UPDATE 2:44pm] – Cort’s docket has been updated at SCOTUS. The application has been “refiled and submitted to Justice Scalia”.

SCOTUS UPDATES for December 2, 2008: CORT WROTNOWSKI HAND DELIVERS EMERGENCY APPLICATION – DONOFRIO LETTER REGARDING NJ JUDGE MISCONDUCT HITS DOCKET

Cort Wrotnowski, (SCOTUS Docket No. 08A469) a day after facing the shock of his life when told by a SCOTUS clerk that his renewed application to Justice Scalia would be held back for 7 days due to anthrax screening, hand delivered 10 copies of his renewed application to the Security booth at SCOTUS this morning at 10:30 AM. Cort was told by the Clerk’s office that the papers would “probably” be in the Clerk’s office by 2:00 PM. Cort’s application, according to Supreme Court Rule 22.1, should be “transmitted promptly” to the Honorable Associate Justice Antonin Scalia. Keep your eyes on that Docket to see if they will follow the Rules of Court.

In my case, SCOTUS Docket No. 08A407, Donofrio v. Wells, the docket has been updated to include the letter I sent to all nine Justices which included copies of official Judicial Misconduct allegations against the New Jersey Judge who handled my initial NJ Appellate Division case. This is important because the letter made clear that should the SCOTUS request an official copy of the case file from the lower court, the file on record there is fraudulent.

It’s significant to note that I sent this letter directly to the nine Justices. While I did send a copy to the Clerk of the Court, the copies I sent to Justices went directly to them without asking the Clerk to distribute them. Since this was not an official pleading, I wasn’t required to go through the Clerk’s office. The letter was sent on November 22, 2008 but has only just hit the Docket today, December 2, 2008. I didn’t think this letter would become part of the Docket. I expect members of the press might be able to find out what this means. Nobody in the Clerk’s office will take my calls.

D-Day Eve Open Thread….

D-Day Eve Open Thread….

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the very first open thread that the Monster has laid out for your consideration. Please take a moment and leave your thoughts about the statements to follow or something more pressing if it strikes your fancy.  I must say that The Borg Collective has not been hanging around as much as usual, and that is something everyone can rejoice about.  Here are the topics of discussion if you so choose to jump in and give us the truth – the courageous, unadultered “What Do You Really Think” truth!…no holds barred, feel free to get it off your chest.

  • The Georgia Senate Runoff Race tomorrow including Saxby Chambliss and all the pubs that have come out for him including the “Rock Star” Herself….
  • Senator Clinton’s appointment as Secretary of State….most of you know what I think about that piece of news.
  • How low will the Stock Market go?  I’m guessing 5000, but what do you think?
  • The President Elect’s inability to answer a solid question with a solid answer.
  • The Leo Donofrio Case being conferenced in 4 days.
  • The Philip Berg Case.
  • What the Military Command structure will do when they find out that the Prez Elect is really a British/Kenyan/Indonesian/WTF citizen? (This is my personal favorite)

Have at it folks….I’ll be around repairing the sidebars and working the IE problem.  I want to congratulate American Genie for stepping out of his/her comfort zone and switching to Firefox!

Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate Issue For Dummies OR Leo Donofrio’s Suit

Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate Issue For Dummies OR Leo Donofrio’s Suit

I have made it known that I do not believe this issue is tinfoil hat anymore, and that I would be relentless about finding more information.  In keeping with that, here ya go…..

I know that quite a few people are becoming aware of the Barack Obama Birth Certificate Issue, and the Leo Donofrio suit that is supposed to be in conference with the Supreme Court on December 5th.  For those of you that really want to hear about this suit and The One’s eligibility problem from the horse’s mouth, I was emailed this information about Plains Radio, “The Voice Of The People”.

Leo Donofrio has done radio interviews speaking about his case against the Secretary of State of New Jersey and what that case EXACTLY entails; specifically her negligence in not verifying the eligibility of presidential candidates to be on the ballot.

I would suggest that you listen to Interview listed for 11-18-08 first.

Interview: Monday, November 24th (Ed and Caren)

Interview: Tuesday, November 18th (Joe Thunder and Bill Ness)

Interview: Wednesday, November 19th (Bob Vernon)

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