Leo Donofrio Supreme Court Update, 12-6-08

Leo Donofrio Supreme Court Update, 12-6-08

As has been reported by Leo Donofrio’s own site, Natural Born Citizen, his suit against Barack Obama, John McCain and  Roger Calero was to be heard in conference before all nine justices yesterday, December 5th, 2008. Here is what is being reported in the Washington Times today:

The Supreme Court held off Friday on deciding whether to grant a hearing in a long-shot lawsuit that would decide whether Barack Obama can constitutionally become president as a “natural born” U.S. citizen.

The Friday list of court orders that denies or grants hearings did not mention the lawsuit, which says Mr. Obama should be disqualified from the presidency because he purportedly acquired the same British citizenship that his father had when he was born.

A spokesman for the court said the decision on whether to hear the suit brought by retired New Jersey lawyer Leo Donofrio is likely to be announced next week.

My theory after reading  the snip from the WT is that the justices conferenced about this case yesterday, know that Donofrio has all his ducks in a row, and are trying to figure out how to throw this nuclear potato at someone else.  As Shtuey has said several times, the social contract has definitely been broken.

Foreigners: Become A US Citizen; Get Your Hawaii Birth Certificate Here!!!!

In my travels this morning I stumbled upon Wake Up America’s piece called “Hawaiian Patriots Contact Hospitals: Obama & Mom Never There?” which was based on Earth Frisk’s piece “Hospitals in Hawaii to Obama: You Were Not Born Here!”.  Here’s a little segment and then I will get to a tidbit that I personally think is very interesting and which was not covered in Wake Up America’s post:

Supposed Conspiracy Claim Turns REAL on Obama

It is becoming painfully obvious that we may very well have a criminal President in 2009. No this isn’t a joke. What I speak of is the curious developments in the supposedly racist, biased, dumb, as well as insane case of where Obama was born. Why the Barack Obama Birth Certificate Issue Is Legitimate

A strange development indeed is how it is that every time Barack Obama or a family member tells of where Obama was born, they seem to have no idea as of December 2008.
They seemed to know what hospital quite a few times months ago when it was claimed that Obama’s mother gave birth to him at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu – Obama and Mom Never Here

The Queen’s Medical Center
1301 Punchbowl StreetHonolulu, HI 96813 Link to Site
Phone number 808-538-9011 General Medical Records 808-547-4361.

After it was concluded that Obama and his mother were never there, his sister was in an interview (Mary) and claimed that Obama was born at Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children – Obama and Mom Never Here 1319 Punahou StreetHonolulu, Hawaii 96826(808) 535-7000 Link to site
Hospital after Hospital – all Have No Record of Obama being born or Mom Ever being There.

Hospital after hospital in Honolulu all have NO RECORD of Obama or mother ever being there. Is this some state secret? Are we to believe that even the hospital that he was born in should remain secret? Why lie to us as if it matters I mean the man did win the Presidential vote? Why the lies and secrecy?

We already know that Obama’s family and the entire nation of Kenya (which is about to have a national holiday for Obama) know that Barack Obama was born in Mombasa Coastal Hospital in Kenya. The government of Kenya has sealed these records. More and more secrecy due to the fact that once proven, Obama will not be constitutionally allowed to become President of the United States!

If you are interested, you can go to the Earth Frisk post and there is a complete list of hospitals on Oahu, Maui, and Kauai.

As some of you know, I  live in Hawaii, and am well aware of how the Hawaiian population thumbs their  noses at mainlanders.  What follows is  just another instance of Hawaii being Hawaii:

Hawaii Issues Birth Certificates to Foreign Born Residents!
Here’s Hawaii saying it like it it. All Doubts Cleared my Friends.

A. From Hawaii’s official Department of Health, Vital Records webpage: “Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country“ (applies to adopted children).

B. A parent may register an in-state birth in lieu of certification by a hospital of birth under HRS 338-5.

C. Hawaiian law expressly provides for registration of out-of-state births under HRS 338-17.8. A foreign birth presumably would have been recorded by the American consular of the country of birth, and presumably that would be reflected on the Hawaiian birth certificate.

D. Hawaiian law, however, expressly acknowledges that its system is subject to error. See, for example, HRS 338-17.

E. Hawaiian law expressly provides for verification in lieu of certified copy of a birth certificate under HRS 338-14.3.

F. Even the Hawaii Department of Home Lands does not accept a certified copy of a birth certificate as conclusive evidence for its homestead program. From its web site: “In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.”

Now that we all understand that you can be born in Madagascar, Russia, Norway, Brazil or even Kenya like Obama and still have a REAL birth certificate that both Snopes and Factcheck would say was real since they are real. That doesn’t mean you were born in Hawaii. Does this matter to America?
Barack Obama has as of November 27th 2008 spent over$500,000 U.S. to prevent others from seeing it. Why? Didn’t he already win the vote?

So kids, how we all feeling about that?  I am definitely going to have to stock up on Margaritas to get me through the next four years if our Supreme Court does a complete chickensh** maneuver and opts out of hearing any of the 19 Eligibility Cases against The One!!

Just The Facts Ma’am, Just The Facts…Barack Obama Was A British Citizen At Birth

Just The Facts Ma’am, Just The Facts…Barack Obama Was A British Citizen At Birth

I must admit that I have gotten caught up in the “Birth Certificate” issue since The One produced a doctored Certificate of Live Birth, (yet no real vaulted BC), and then sent his army of lawyers to stop all court cases dead in their tracks.  It seemed like the issue of validity, and I know quite a few people focused on it, yet it is probably the very diversion The One is seeking to throw everybody else off the track of the real issue; The One’s British Citizenship at birth.

I must admit that I was wrong about chasing The One’s Birth Certificate, because, as Leo Donofrio so eloquently states, it does not matter.  What does matter is these statements from Leo Donofrio; the facts so to speak:

I have REPEATEDLY stated that Obama can release a golden birth certificate signed by 100 gazzillion witnesses embossed in gold leaf that he was born on the mall in Washington DC and it still wouldn’t make him a “Natural Born Citizen” under the Constitution because he was, regardless of where he was born, a BRITISH citizen “at birth.” Since he was “born” as a British citizen/subject, his United States citizenship was not “natural”. …

There is no dispute about Obama’s parentage. His father was a British Citizen, and his mother was a United States citizen. Therefore, Obama was both a subject/citizen of the British monarchy as well as a United States citizen “at birth”. His place of birth won’t change that no matter where he was born.

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Or this:

MISTAKE 1: the headline is completely misleading on two fronts
“Anti-Obama bloggers challenge birthplace”

If Mr. Montogmery had done the slightest bit of research, he might have found my application now before the SCOTUS. That application firmly argues that John McCain was not eligible to be President along with Roger Calero and Barack Obama. Anyone following this story knows I have handled McCain’s decision to run – and the Senate’s faux resolution saying he could run – with very harsh treatment. McCain is not a natural born citizen since he was born in Panama and, despite popular belief, (as per the Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual 1116.1-4(c)) the military base there was NOT US soil. Calero was born in Nicaragua and also is not a natural born citizen like Obama who was a British citizen at birth.

Montgomery’s report fails to point any of this out opting for the more salacious headline. The headline is bunk, but hopefully not intentional bunk. We shall see.

MISTAKE 2: My lawsuit before the United States Supreme Court is not focused on challenging Obama’s place of birth. I have repeatedly, in interview after interview, as well as in the actual application submitted to the Court, asserted my belief that Obama was probably born in Hawaii and that I expect to see him eventually produce a solid birth certificate which puts these other law suits to rest.

My original lower court suit mentions the BC issue as an ancillary matter in that the person I sued, the New Jersey Secretary of State, should have, at the very least, requested to see Obama’s BC. But that is not a core issue in my case. And I have publicly criticized those who brought law suits but failed to nail the main issue – that Obama can never be a natural “born” citizen – even if he was born on the mall in DC with two million witnesses, since, at the time of his birth, he was “born” as a British citizen/subject.

As anybody with even the slightest hint of awareness knows, my law suit is challenging Obama’s eligibility on the fact that he has admitted he was a British citizen “at birth”. His own web site told me so. And factcheck.org backed it up with their analysis of Britain’s Nationality Act of 1948. Montgomery cites factcheck.org as a “nonpartisan” source so he should have been aware that same source has confirmed that Obama was a British citizen “at birth” through his Father.

My law suit correctly points out that the framers would never have sanctioned somebody born as a British subject/citizen for President of the United States.

Is The One’s British citizenship at birth the reason for the following unavailability of standard paperwork? (From the AMAZING Uppity Woman on August 2, 2008)

Ah…Sorry To Bother You Mr. Obama, Sir

Excuse me Mr. Obama, I mean Senator Obama, sir. Um……I know you are busy and important and stuff. I mean running for president is very important and….

…..ah………I hate to bother you. I will only take a minute ok, sir?

See, I have these missing pieces that are holding me up, and I was wondering sir, if you could take time out of your busy schedule and help me out. You know, no big deal, just some loose ends and things.

Hey, you have a nice place here! The wife sees houses like this on TV all the time and says boy she wishes she had digs like this you know? is that painting real? Really??? Wow. I saw something like that in a museum once!

Oh, sorry sir. I didn’t mean to get off the track. So if you could just help me out a minute and give me some details, I will get right out of your way. I want to close this case and maybe take the wife to Coney Island or something. Ever been to Coney Island? No, I didn’t think so…….

Well, listen, anyways, I can’t seem to get some information I need to wrap this up. These things seem to either be “locked” or “not available’. I’m sure it’s just some oversight or glitch or something, so if you could you tell me where these things are….. I….I…. have them written down here somewhere….oh wait. Sorry about the smears. It was raining out. I’ll just read it to you.

Could you help me please find these things, sir?

Your Occidental College records
Your Columbia College records
Your Columbia Thesis paper
Your Harvard College records
Your Selective Service Registration
Your medical records
Your Illinois State Senate records
Your Illinois State Senate schedule
Your Law practice client list
A Certified Copy of your original Birth certificate
Your embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth
Your Harvard Law Review articles that were published
Your University of Chicago scholarly articles
Your Record of baptism

Oh hey…listen! I know you are busy! Is this too much for you now? I mean tell you what. I will come back tomorrow. Give you some time to get these things together, you know? I mean, I know you are busy, so I will just let my self out. I will be back tomrorrow. And the day after……

And just to add one more thing to the list; may I please see which passport you used to travel to Pakistan at a time in America’s history when Americans were not allowed to GO TO PAKISTAN?  Was it an Indonesian Passport because you became an Indonesian Citizen when your step-father adopted you? Hmmmm?

How many ways from Sunday can somebody NOT BE A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN and still become President?

How many?

The Scope Of The Constitutional Problem We Face….

The Scope Of The Constitutional Problem We Face….

Let’s posit that The One is something other than a natural born citizen.  I know that a good portion of the American public is not as stupid as the powers that be would like to think.   Newsprint and Television are now being challenged by everyday citizens with the Internet as their weapon of choice.  This is such a huge scam that I really do believe that The One believes that we will allow him to get away with it because the audacity of it falls under the category of “It Must Be Tinfoil Hat!”.

Have you actually taken the time to think thru the ramifications of Constitutional challenges?  For example, I started to wonder what the military commanders would have to do when they found out that The One is not an American.  Do they arrest him?  Who becomes the President?  Is this the reason why the Pentagon and other official military information systems keep showing up on my site everytime I publish anything that has to do with The One’s BC? (To the military now on my site – please remember the oath you took to protect our Constitution against all enemies; foreign and domestic.)

Annie Sweetie Oakley left a great link and I thought it would be good to share some of the thoughts with you.

From The Bulletin:

Controversy continues to surround President-elect Barack Obama’s eligibility to serve as president, and a case involving his birth certificate waits for its day before the U.S. Supreme Court. A constitutional lawyer said were it to be discovered that Mr. Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen, it would have grave consequences for the nation.

According to the Constitution, a president must be a natural born citizen of the U.S. Mr. Obama’s critics have failed to force him legally to produce his original birth certificate, and Mr. Obama has resisted any attempt to make him do so. Currently, only Hawaii Department of Health officials have access to Mr. Obama’s original records.

Some of Mr. Obama’s critics have said he was born in Kenya and have claimed he is a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia, or even a British subject.

Edwin Vieira, a constitutional lawyer who has practiced for 30 years and holds four degrees from Harvard, said if it were to be discovered Mr. Obama were not eligible for the presidency, it would cause many problems. They would be compounded if his ineligibility were discovered after he had been in office for a period of time.

“Let’s assume he wasn’t born in the U.S.,” Mr. Vieira told The Bulletin. “What’s the consequence? He will not be eligible. That means he cannot be elected validly. The people and the Electoral College cannot overcome this and the House of Representatives can’t make him president. So what’s the next step? He takes the oath of office, and assuming he’s aware he’s not a citizen, then it’s a perjured oath.”

Any appointments made by an ineligible president would have to be recalled, and their decisions would be invalidated.

“He may have nominated people to different positions; he may have nominated people to the judicial branch, who may have been confirmed, they may have gone out on xecutive duty and done various things,” said Mr. Vieira. “The people that he’s put into the judicial branch may have decided cases, and all of that needs to be unzipped.”

Mr. Vieira said Obama supporters should be the ones concerned about the case, because Mr. Obama’s platform would be discredited it he were forced to step down from the presidency later due to his ineligibility, were it to be discovered.

“Let’s say we go a year into this process, and it all turns out to be a flim-flam,” said Mr. Vieira. “What’s the nation’s reaction to that? What’s going to be the reaction in the next U.S. election? God knows. It has almost revolutionary consequences, if you think about it.”

Mr. Vieira said Mr. Obama’s continued silence and avoidance in the release of his birth certificate is an ethical issue because of the dire consequences that could be caused by a possible constitutional crisis.

“If he were my client and this question came up in civil litigation, if there was some reason that his birth status was relevant and the other side wanted him to produce the thing and he said ‘no,’ I would tell him, ‘you have about 15 minutes to produce it or sign the papers necessary to produce the document, or I’m resigning as your attorney,” said Mr. Vieira. “I don’t think any ethical attorney would go ahead on the basis that his client could produce an objective document in civil litigation [and refused to do so].”

Further, Mr. Vieira cited a fraud ruling in a 1977 case called U.S. v. Prudden, which he feels applies in this case.

“Silence can only be equated with fraud when there is a legal and moral duty to speak or when an inquiry left unanswered would be intentionally misleading,” the ruling reads. “We cannot condone this shocking conduct … If that is the case we hope our message is clear. This sort of deception will not be tolerated and if this is routine it should be corrected immediately.”

Mr. Vieira said such an ethical question of representing a client who refused to produce such a basic document is important, even in a small civil case. The current question is concerning the man who potentially could have his finger next to the nuclear button.

“[The birth certificate], in theory, should be there,” said Mr. Vieira. “What if it isn’t? Who knows, aside from Mr. Obama? Does Russian intelligence know it isn’t there? Does Chinese intelligence know it isn’t there? Does the CIA know that it isn’t there? Who is in a position to blackmail this fellow?”

Mr. Vieira explained all laws have to be submitted to the president. In the event that there is no valid president, then no laws passed by Congress in that administration would be legally null and void. Because of that, this case will probably not go away, even after Mr. Obama takes the oath of office.

“If you don’t produce it, you think it’s going to go away,” he said. “There are all these cases challenging Mr. Obama, and some challenging secretaries of state, and they run into this doctrine called standing.”

Mr. Vieira explained although legal standing is difficult to get around in Federal courts, the document could be produced in any criminal cases stemming from legislation passed in the Obama administration.

“Let’s assume that an Obama administration passes some of these controversial pieces of legislation he has been promising to go for, like the FOCA (Freedom of Choice) Act,” said Mr. Vieira. “I would assume that some of those surely will have some severe civil or criminal penalties attached to them for violation. You are now the criminal defendant under this statute, which was passed by an Obama Congress and signed by President Obama. Your defense is that is not a statute because Mr. Obama is not the president. You now have a right and I have never heard this challenged, to subpoena in a criminal case, anyone who has relevant evidence relating to your defenses. And you can subpoena them duces tecum, meaning ‘you shall bring with you the documents.’ ”

Such a criminal defense would enable the defendant to subpoena any person to testify in court and any person to bring evidence in their possession to the court.

Further, records could be subpoenaed directly, in the case of a birth certificate. Once the record could be subpoenaed, the birth certificate could be examined by forensic experts, who would then be able to testify to the document’s veracity as expert witnesses. Any movement by the judges to make a special exception to the president in a criminal case would hurt the legitimacy of that presidential administration.

“I can’t believe I’m the only lawyer who would think of this,” said Mr. Vieira. “I think any criminal lawyer defending against one of these politically charged statutes is going to come up with this. That means it will never go away until that document is laid down on the table and people say, ‘yes, there it is.’ And therefore they’re caught. If people keep challenging this and the judges out of fear keep saying ‘no, go to jail, go to jail, go to jail’ then that’s the end of the Obama administration’s legitimacy. On the other hand if they open the file and it’s not there, then that’s really the end of the administration’s legitimacy.”

I do not know how you feel about this, but the media blackout and the Anthrax testing is still pointing to this being a truer issue than just some tinfoil hat idea…

Obama Birth Certificate; Leo Donofrio; Cort Wrotnowski Updates

UPDATE ON Leo Donofrio’s and Cort Wrotnowski’s suits FROM Leo Donofrio’s site:

[UPDATE 3:12 pm]
Cort’s Docket now shows that the renewed application to Justice Scalia is dated Nov. 29. That’s the date Cort express mailed the original papers. We don’t know if they’ve passed the original papers on or if they used the new papers submitted in person today by Cort. If they used the old papers, then why was Cort told yesterday it would take seven days? Perhaps they used the new papers with the original date of filing. We don’t know.
[UPDATE 2:44pm] – Cort’s docket has been updated at SCOTUS. The application has been “refiled and submitted to Justice Scalia”.

SCOTUS UPDATES for December 2, 2008: CORT WROTNOWSKI HAND DELIVERS EMERGENCY APPLICATION – DONOFRIO LETTER REGARDING NJ JUDGE MISCONDUCT HITS DOCKET

Cort Wrotnowski, (SCOTUS Docket No. 08A469) a day after facing the shock of his life when told by a SCOTUS clerk that his renewed application to Justice Scalia would be held back for 7 days due to anthrax screening, hand delivered 10 copies of his renewed application to the Security booth at SCOTUS this morning at 10:30 AM. Cort was told by the Clerk’s office that the papers would “probably” be in the Clerk’s office by 2:00 PM. Cort’s application, according to Supreme Court Rule 22.1, should be “transmitted promptly” to the Honorable Associate Justice Antonin Scalia. Keep your eyes on that Docket to see if they will follow the Rules of Court.

In my case, SCOTUS Docket No. 08A407, Donofrio v. Wells, the docket has been updated to include the letter I sent to all nine Justices which included copies of official Judicial Misconduct allegations against the New Jersey Judge who handled my initial NJ Appellate Division case. This is important because the letter made clear that should the SCOTUS request an official copy of the case file from the lower court, the file on record there is fraudulent.

It’s significant to note that I sent this letter directly to the nine Justices. While I did send a copy to the Clerk of the Court, the copies I sent to Justices went directly to them without asking the Clerk to distribute them. Since this was not an official pleading, I wasn’t required to go through the Clerk’s office. The letter was sent on November 22, 2008 but has only just hit the Docket today, December 2, 2008. I didn’t think this letter would become part of the Docket. I expect members of the press might be able to find out what this means. Nobody in the Clerk’s office will take my calls.

The Plot Thickens Around Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate….

Plains Radio is keeping the issue of The One’s Eligibility problem front and center.  If the average American does not believe there is a media blackout of this issue….well, you fall under the category of a low information voter who probably should not have been voting recently.

Leo Donofrio and Cort Wrotnowski were on Plains Radio yesterday evening.  Please go here to listen to Scott’s Early Show and Leo is losing his mind over what happened with the Wrotnowski case.  He is planning on taking his case out of the Supreme Court by Friday if the American public does not stand up and start fighting for the Cort Wrotnowski Case.  Leo believes that Cort’s case is better written than his and has an even better chance.

The update is: Cort Wrotnowski’s case has gone to the Anthrax facility to be checked for Anthrax which delays it by 7 days and puts it beyond the December 5th date.  Make sure you listen to this radio program before going on to the rest of the article!  Here a couple of phone numbers for the Supreme Court: Public Information Office: 202-479-3211, Reporters press 1, Clerk’s Office: 202-479-3011.

One of the callers, Michelle came up with a brilliant idea about every single American that is concerned and wants to help to download a copy of Cort’s Legal Brief and Fax it to the Court since they can’t see the paperwork because it is in the Anthrax Facility.  Michelle runs one of Leo’s sites.  Her plan is to put the papers up on Leo’s site, where we can all download, print and fax.  I will get you an update when I find the rest of the information.

Leo has moved his blog AGAIN to Natural Born Citizen on WordPress.  I personally believe that if this was not a issue, The One would have produced a real vaulted BC, Leo would not have had to move his blog 2-3 times, and Cort’s case would not currently be in process of checking for Anthrax.  Add the Media Blackout and what does all that add up to?

In other news,  World Net Daily reports:

Imaging guru: ‘Certification’ of birth time, location is fake
‘It would be hard to perform as president from behind jail cell door at Leavenworth’

A computer imaging expert, who examined the “Certification of Live Birth” Barack Obama’s campaign posted online to rebut charges he is ineligible to be president due to the Constitution’s “natural born citizen” requirement, says it’s a fake, and further, that such fraud is criminal.

The Obama campaign has told WND such allegations are “garbage,” but Dr. Ron Polarik, who holds a Ph.D. in instructional media and is a “guru” on computer technology such as printers, scanners and digital imaging, disagrees. His analyses have been posted online in a YouTube video, which also is embedded here:

He explained to WND there are several “giveaways” on the image itself. For example, the document has gray between the lettering, not green pixels as the rest of the background document, suggesting someone cut-and-pasted or typed new information that was embedded on top of the background.

Where’s the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. and thus a “natural born American” as required by Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution? If you still want to see it, sign WND’s petition demanding the release of his birth certificate.

Also, Polarik said although the Obama form has a border and seal from 2008, it purportedly was obtained in 2007.

In Polarik’s view, there has to be a significant reason for a political candidate and campaign to go to such lengths.

“Obviously, there’s something very critical to hide, or they wouldn’t have spent the million dollars in legal fees to prevent the release of his original birth certificate,” Polarik told WND.

Go here to read the rest.

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