(Look for the update about Texas and Missouri at the bottom of the post)
I’ll have you know that it took quite some time to stop laughing (and then stop shaking my head) after I read this petition on WhiteHouse.gov (linked from Drudge). Here are the screenshots of the petition because seeing is believing. (Dumbing down and globalist re-education of Americans FOR THE WIN!)
(Top Of Page)
“Peacefully grant the State of Louisiana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.” (Top of page)
(Bottom of Page)
Peacefully grant the State of Louisiana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government. (Part 2- Bottom of Page)
Michael E of Slidell, Louisiana is the creator of this petition and I personally would like to know exactly why he did this and what he felt his outcome was supposed to be, because currently (to a sovereign American) he appears to have been totally re-educated by the globalists into asking his lord to keep an extra bushel of grain from the fall harvest.
Right in the body of the petition, Michael quoted the Declaration of Independence, but I do not think he fully understands what this quote means:
“…Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government…”
It DOES NOT state that it is the Right of the People to petition the current dictator and ask permission for a hall pass to go to the bathroom! One does not petition the leader of the nation you are going to secede from. Secession is NOT a light request, discussion, decision. It is not a request at all and usually involves bloodshed (i.e. the Civil War). You just do it; accept responsibility for your actions; and go forward.
WTF was this guy thinking? Oh yeah, that’s right….color inside the lines little boys and girls. Here, we have the paper and crayons all set up for you.
The right to petition your government is guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. We the People provides a new way to petition the Obama Administration to take action on a range of important issues facing our country. We created We the People because we want to hear from you. If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure it’s sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Yep, catch ya later….
UPDATE:
It appears that petitions to the White House for Texas and Missouri to secede were placed on November 10 and November 9th respectively. Here are the petitions and their URLs as I am not linking to the White House.
Missouri:
WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:
Peacefully grant the State of Missouri to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.
As the founding fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776:
“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
“…Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government…”
Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.
The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.
What the F*** are these people thinking? Please refer to the original thought of this post. One DOES NOT ask permission to secede and this discussion should be taking place in these states; not on WhiteHouse.gov.
100% correct Diamond. This should never involve asking permission. If Louisiana wanted to get the Fed’s attention all they have to do at this time of year is to turn off the natural gas valve and we would have their attention very quickly. Louisiana and Texas could form a union that would bring America to it’s knees in days in the winter….weeks any other time of year. Louisiana has a major card up their sleeve here and should use it if serious….but our governor is a Rhodes scholar and we all know what that means. His first act was to mandate fluoride on every well serving over 10 people. The Feds own and control Louisiana and the fact that this showed up on the White House site is a little un-nerving.
Letty Bromenschenkel on November 12, 2012 at 12:08 pm
It is a start : it is notice:
It is a great place to start :
It will get someone’s attention . I am going to stick with the petitions until we have a better remedy .
Rwolf on November 13, 2012 at 9:11 am
Will Obama use NDAA To Arrest State Representatives and State Militias that support Secession?
Could Obama use NDAA To Arrest Secessionists on the Premise members are Militants and Belligerents that pose a threat to National Security?
Recently the Obama administration stated to Federal Judge Katherine Forest that under (NDAA) The National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 the President had authorization to lock up belligerents indefinitely. That they (were justified) to lock belligerents up indefinitely—because cases involving belligerents directly-aligned with militants against the good of America—warrants such punishment.) Pres. Obama could use NDAA provisions to order U.S. Military Forces to round up without evidence, millions of Americans including Secessionists and Militias by alleging they are belligerents or a threat to National Security. Many observers believe Obama intends to extend NDAA to imprison U.S. Citizens in Indefinite Detention not involved with or associated with enemy forces.
Hitler included similar provisions in his fascist (Discriminatory Decrees signed February 28, 1933). Almost immediately after the German Parliament passed Hitler’s laws, the Reich Government ordered the arrest of German Citizens and confiscated their guns without probable cause or evidence; delegated powers to German Police and other authorities to arrest anyone Nazi authorities claimed attempted or incited public unrest: arrested among others were outspoken Germans, writers, journalists, peaceful protestors and artists. After World War II the East German Secret Police (Stasi) used the threat of Indefinite Detention to forcibly recruit thousands of informants.
The U.S. 2012 NDAA legislation Obama signed 12-31-11 is similar to Hitler’s 1933 fascist laws the SS and Gestapo used to target persons in Germany for arrest, imprisonment and execution without probable cause; and confiscate millions of dollars of property. Hitler used his laws to suspend Parliament and the Supreme Court insuring his laws could not be rescinded.
During the Obama Administration’s recent request for a (stay) to stop U.S. District Judge Katherine Forrest blocking enforcement of vague NDAA provisions, the Obama Administration—never clarified what constitutes a (belligerent); or militant; or what belligerent activities (directly aligned with a militant) to order a belligerent’s arrest or indefinite detention; or what is against the good of America. Under vague provisions of NDAA, the President could accuse anyone of being (directly aligned with militants by way of any political or other association; activity, statement, writing or communication with an individual or group government deemed (militant) to arrest and indefinitely detain Americans. Writers, journalists, Americans that disagree with or question U.S. Government or its allies—may under NDAA be subject to arrest and indefinite detention.
NDAA 2012, like Hitler’s 1933 Discriminatory Decrees enforces censorship; refers to the Patriot Act e.g. warrant-less searches of private property and forfeiture of property from persons not charged with crime. Provisions in NDAA 2012 keep the door open for corrupt U.S. police; government agents and provocateurs which there are many, to falsify reports and statements to target any American, group or organization for arrest, indefinite detention, complete disappearance; civil asset forfeiture of their property.
You may have noted NDAA referred to the USA Patriot Act. The Patriot Act lends itself to Government / police corruption; the Federal Government may use secret witnesses and informants to cause arrests and civil asset forfeiture of Americans’ property. Witness(s) and informants may be paid up to 50% of assets forfeited. Federal Government under 18USC may use a mere preponderance of civil evidence, little more than hearsay to Civilly Forfeit Private Property. Under the Patriot Act innocent property owners may be barred by government knowing the evidence federal government uses to forfeit their property.
Sections of NDAA 2012 are so broad, it appears U.S. Government or the President could (retroactively) deem an American’s past 1st Amendment activities prior to passage of 2012 NDAA—supported hostilities, terrorism or (Belligerents) to order the arrest and Indefinite Detention of any U.S. Citizen, writer, group or organization.
Under NDAA 2012 it should be expected that indefinitely detained U.S. Citizens not involved in terrorism or hostile activities, not given Miranda Warnings when interrogated, not allowed legal counsel or habeas corpus may be prosecuted for non-terrorist (ordinary crimes) because of their (alleged admissions) while held in Indefinite Detention.
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100% correct Diamond. This should never involve asking permission. If Louisiana wanted to get the Fed’s attention all they have to do at this time of year is to turn off the natural gas valve and we would have their attention very quickly. Louisiana and Texas could form a union that would bring America to it’s knees in days in the winter….weeks any other time of year. Louisiana has a major card up their sleeve here and should use it if serious….but our governor is a Rhodes scholar and we all know what that means. His first act was to mandate fluoride on every well serving over 10 people. The Feds own and control Louisiana and the fact that this showed up on the White House site is a little un-nerving.
…or was put there to get the moos moving in the right direction, yes?
Help add West Virginia to the Petition list…
http://wh.gov/9GkE
and a bunch more….something like 15 or 16 now. What a joke and proves the point…well trained corporate owned moos.
hahahaha- the Federal Judges and the Supreme Court will honor your decision too! Come on, your freedom is just one click away…
20 states are now seeking petitions : TX already almost has 21,000 signatures:
we are sending out email campaigns for folks to keep signing to send a strong message : tks for listening :
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions
It is a start : it is notice:
It is a great place to start :
It will get someone’s attention . I am going to stick with the petitions until we have a better remedy .
Will Obama use NDAA To Arrest State Representatives and State Militias that support Secession?
Could Obama use NDAA To Arrest Secessionists on the Premise members are Militants and Belligerents that pose a threat to National Security?
Recently the Obama administration stated to Federal Judge Katherine Forest that under (NDAA) The National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 the President had authorization to lock up belligerents indefinitely. That they (were justified) to lock belligerents up indefinitely—because cases involving belligerents directly-aligned with militants against the good of America—warrants such punishment.) Pres. Obama could use NDAA provisions to order U.S. Military Forces to round up without evidence, millions of Americans including Secessionists and Militias by alleging they are belligerents or a threat to National Security. Many observers believe Obama intends to extend NDAA to imprison U.S. Citizens in Indefinite Detention not involved with or associated with enemy forces.
Hitler included similar provisions in his fascist (Discriminatory Decrees signed February 28, 1933). Almost immediately after the German Parliament passed Hitler’s laws, the Reich Government ordered the arrest of German Citizens and confiscated their guns without probable cause or evidence; delegated powers to German Police and other authorities to arrest anyone Nazi authorities claimed attempted or incited public unrest: arrested among others were outspoken Germans, writers, journalists, peaceful protestors and artists. After World War II the East German Secret Police (Stasi) used the threat of Indefinite Detention to forcibly recruit thousands of informants.
The U.S. 2012 NDAA legislation Obama signed 12-31-11 is similar to Hitler’s 1933 fascist laws the SS and Gestapo used to target persons in Germany for arrest, imprisonment and execution without probable cause; and confiscate millions of dollars of property. Hitler used his laws to suspend Parliament and the Supreme Court insuring his laws could not be rescinded.
During the Obama Administration’s recent request for a (stay) to stop U.S. District Judge Katherine Forrest blocking enforcement of vague NDAA provisions, the Obama Administration—never clarified what constitutes a (belligerent); or militant; or what belligerent activities (directly aligned with a militant) to order a belligerent’s arrest or indefinite detention; or what is against the good of America. Under vague provisions of NDAA, the President could accuse anyone of being (directly aligned with militants by way of any political or other association; activity, statement, writing or communication with an individual or group government deemed (militant) to arrest and indefinitely detain Americans. Writers, journalists, Americans that disagree with or question U.S. Government or its allies—may under NDAA be subject to arrest and indefinite detention.
NDAA 2012, like Hitler’s 1933 Discriminatory Decrees enforces censorship; refers to the Patriot Act e.g. warrant-less searches of private property and forfeiture of property from persons not charged with crime. Provisions in NDAA 2012 keep the door open for corrupt U.S. police; government agents and provocateurs which there are many, to falsify reports and statements to target any American, group or organization for arrest, indefinite detention, complete disappearance; civil asset forfeiture of their property.
You may have noted NDAA referred to the USA Patriot Act. The Patriot Act lends itself to Government / police corruption; the Federal Government may use secret witnesses and informants to cause arrests and civil asset forfeiture of Americans’ property. Witness(s) and informants may be paid up to 50% of assets forfeited. Federal Government under 18USC may use a mere preponderance of civil evidence, little more than hearsay to Civilly Forfeit Private Property. Under the Patriot Act innocent property owners may be barred by government knowing the evidence federal government uses to forfeit their property.
Sections of NDAA 2012 are so broad, it appears U.S. Government or the President could (retroactively) deem an American’s past 1st Amendment activities prior to passage of 2012 NDAA—supported hostilities, terrorism or (Belligerents) to order the arrest and Indefinite Detention of any U.S. Citizen, writer, group or organization.
Under NDAA 2012 it should be expected that indefinitely detained U.S. Citizens not involved in terrorism or hostile activities, not given Miranda Warnings when interrogated, not allowed legal counsel or habeas corpus may be prosecuted for non-terrorist (ordinary crimes) because of their (alleged admissions) while held in Indefinite Detention.