Concord, NH – Yesterday, I collected this video of John Irish speaking with George4Title (YouTuber) about how his newborn baby was taken from him and his fiancee moments after the child’s birth by The Division of Family Child Services because of Mr. Irish’s affiliation with OathKeepers. I immediately sent an email to the Oathkeepers asking for confirmation. Today we have that confirmation. It’s real. How’s this for a ‘chilling effect‘ on parents’ free speech? We no longer just break down your door, scare your children and shoot your little doggies; step outta line and we take your kids…
Update from Oathkeepers’ site:
Oath Keepers statement about video titled, “Government Agents Seize Oath Keeper’s New Born From Hospital”
UPDATE : 10/07/2010 10.53PM PST — We have confirmed that the affidavit in support of the order to take the child from her parents states ,along with a long list of other assertions against both parents, that “The Division became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the Oath Keepers.” Yes, there are other, very serious allegations. Out of respect for the privacy of the parents, we will not publish the affidavit. We will leave that to Mr. Irish. But please do remember that allegations do not equal facts — they are merely allegations (and in my experience as a criminal defense lawyer in small town Montana I saw many allegations that proved to be false).
But an even more fundamental point is that regardless of the other allegations, it is utterly unconstitutional for government agencies to list Mr. Irish’s association with Oath Keepers in an affidavit in support of a child abuse order to remove his daughter from his custody. Talk about chilling speech! If this is allowed to continue, it will chill the speech of not just Mr. Irish, but all Oath Keepers and it will serve as the camel under the tent for other associations being considered too risky for parents to dare. Thus, it serves to chill the speech of all of us, in any group we belong to that “officials” may not approve of. Don’t you dare associate with such and such group, or you could be on “the list” and then child protective services might come take your kids.
Note: We have also learned that the Southern Poverty Law Center is now part of DHS. Click here to read more on this.
Alex Jones on the inclusion of South Poverty Law Center into DHS.
This is very disturbing and sadly believable.
Children are disappearing out of CPS all over the country.
Freakin’ imagine that? Nothing surprises anymore when people who don’t give a crap are in charge.
This is very frightening. I pray that they will return this baby quickly. We have a monster to fight here. This government is so corrupt and tyrannical. We have a hugh battle to fight on so any levels. Thank you to DT and the others for keeping all of us patriots abreast of what is going on and educating us daily.
This has all the earmarks of the start of the next Civil War, The Civil War of past was a result of States Rights being taken away, NOT SLAVERY!!!, Slavery was just the scapegoat. If there was a violation where is the Supoena ?, Is this The OBAMA GITMO relocated.
Carl,you are correct. Although we do not know all of the facts surrounding social service’s warrant to take the child, we CAN strongly protest the use of an association with any particular group of people as an excuse. I hope that that in itself will aid the family in regaining custody of their child. While there are, in some instances [albeit very few] valid reasons for the removal of a child from the home, it has been my experience that few to none of those I have seen have been valid. My former husband was a Family Court defense attorney who tried hard to keep families together but it was an uphill job with social services running amok and removing children for reasons such as visitors to the home getting into an argument; a parent found with pot; and a bi polar woman who refused to take meds during pregnancy because of the ill effects it could have on her unborn child. It’s a horror story and continues to this day. The purportedly good intentions of protecting children have boomeranged and forced them into being terrorized for fear of being taken from their homes. No doubt there are cases in which it would be better to remove them; when children are systematically abused and tortured physically and mentally they should not have to stay unprotected, but all too often they are removed when they need to be with their parent[s].
Having seen all this coming, I adopted the handle I use several years ago. We do have a civil war approaching. I have been telling folks to choose their side and take a stand over the past six years. I stand with the free and wild things of the world. By that I mean the closest we can get to the smallest government the better. We have been betrayed by all branches of the Federal government since the end of the Civil War. The Third American Revolution is near. Perhaps it is a World Revolution. I cannot say. I know change is coming. Choose your side. We have little time.
The left is begging for an armed conflict before election day. Taking a child is about as brash an attempt to draw fire as I can think of.
That is how I see it also. They are trying so hard to light the fuse.