I personally believe the globalists are just going to skip the step where they combine Canada, America and Mexico into one super-nation, but there is some rather interesting information in the following two hour documentary. The impending collapse of the dollar and the American economy will give them the opening they need to create their global government.
United We Fall from Press For Truth, an alternative media group based in Toronto that is “trying to expose the global elite and their plans for a new world order.”
A film by Bryan Law and Dan Dicks “United We Fall” is a documentary about the North American Union that is being developed right now between Canada, the United States, and Mexico. For years this topic has been debated in the news and in political circles as being a possible future for North America. In recent years, the mood has shifted and a rift is developing between those who want a Deeply Integrated North American Community, and those who wish to retain their national sovereignty. This film takes a look at both sides by interviewing both insiders and activists who have been at the heart of this heated debate. The film also looks to the broader agenda of building a world government and its implications. Featured Interviews: Robert Pastor (Council on Foreign Relations), Allan Gotlieb (Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg) Herbert Grubel (Creator of the “Amero”) Luke Rudkowski (We Are Change) Dan Dicks (Press For Truth) Vijay Sarma (Political Activist, Independent Journalist) Dr. Andrew Moulden (Canadian Action Party) Richard Syrett (Talk Radio Host)
Heard your broadcast with the Darling Dame earlier, and thought I’d introduce you and your readers to someone who has been tracking the behemoth for many decades — Henry Lamb at http://sovereignty.net/
Drop along the right side, and you’ll find a great many videos crammed with details on the UN. At the bottom is his latest book – The Rise of Global Governance – it is a compilation of eight of his research papers, crammed full of facts and each chapter has its own Endnotes with details on where the info is provided.
He shows just how the Banksters, the Pilgrims Society, the Bilderbergs, the CFR, the TriLateral Commission, and many other in and out of governments have used and created the League of Nations and the United Nations to undermine and usurp the legitimate powers of every government, including the US Local, County, State, and Federal branches. It really is an awesome compilation.
I urge everyone to get a copy to understand just how far over the cliff we hang. One point I have determined – I will NOT vote for anyone that is a member of the CFR. That eliminates most of the members of Congress and this misbegotten maladministration.
The “North American Union” is an old hoax. That is, it was a real idea from real people – YOU TOO can publish such ideas with the same authority as Pastor and Grubel – but the idea that governments are planning it is untrue.
For all the claims of an “Amero by 2006!!!” and a “North American Union by 2007!!!” the conspiracy theorists never did find a single elected official in the US or Canada who wanted it. They never found any sign of legislation for it coming down the pipeline. They never found credible reasoning as to why Canada would join it.
Instead all they did is misrepresent private lobbyists’ ideas as government policy. They misrepresented lobbyists’ papers like “Towards a North American Union” as government policy, even ignoring tha fact that since it was published, the US and Canada have done the opposite point for point of what it calls for.
They misepresented the SPP – a series of minor, non-binding agreements on trade and security with NO political, monetary or common tarrif aspects – as being an NAU. They misrepresented former Mexican President Fox’s CNN comments about a latin American trade union as being about an NAU.
And when a celebrity like Lou Dobbs parroted the conspiracy theory – they treated it as proof of the theory.
Plenty of people were calling for NAFTA – politicians, union leaders, corporate CEOs, etc. There’s been no such demand for any NAU. It’s not happening.
Lee M on October 6, 2010 at 1:59 am
On Otober 15,2004, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations said “Ten years after NAFTA, it is obvious that the security and economic futures of Canada, Mexico and the United States are intimately bound. But there is very little thinking available as to where the three countries need to be in another ten years, and how to get there. I am excited about the potential of this task force to help fill this need”.
Sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations, with the Canadian Council of Chief Executives and the Mexican Council on Foreign Relations an independent task force was formed to study all facets of interaction among the three countries – The United States, Canada and Mexico. The Task Force’s main recommendation is the establishment of a North American Economics and Security Community by 2010. Boundaries would be defined by a COMMON external tariff and an outer security perimeter.
At a meeting in Waco, Texas at the end of March 2005 U.S. President George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin COMMITTED their governments to cooperation and joint action.
SOURCE: The “Building a North American Community” Report (PDF File)
Page 3 of this file states: The Task Force proposes, based on the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders, Bush, Fox and Martin, that “our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complimentary”
The March 2005 in Texas highlighted the importance of building the economic strength of the Continent. The Security and Prosperty Partnership for North America signed by Bush, Fox, and Martin firmed a series of working groups under designated lead cabinet ministers to report regularly on progress.
I would suggest that anyone who doubts that this was a determined effort by certain government officials to begin plans for a NAU, pull up the PDF file entitled “The Building of a North American Community” (2005) and read it in its entirety. Also, since these cabinet ministers were supposed to report regularly on progress, there should be a paper trail there.
“The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. soverignty and independence and submergence into an all powerful one world government” — Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S.Navy.
With our present government’s lax attitude as per relations with Mexico, IMO it all ties in.
The fact that Mexico and 10 other Latino countries feel they have a right to interfere with an immigration law that was passed in Arizona, I for one look at this whole mess with a jaundiced eye.
Mr. Strong, have you any knowledge of this PDF File report? Have you any knowledge of the follow up reports that were supposed to be made? I’m sure I’m not the only American who would like to know.
Roger Strong on October 6, 2010 at 5:42 am
Again, those are misrepresentations.
Soon after Bush II was elected, he asked Canada for a “Common Security Perimeter.” Canada REFUSED, not wanting to give up sovereignty over its borders and ports.
After 9/11 even the US turned its back on the idea for the same reasons.
“Building a North American Community” was one last gasp from the lobbyists who wanted the idea. But they’re just that: Lobbyists. Not government, not policy-makers. For every lobbyist who wants more integration and trade, there’s another with equal power who wants the opposite – isolationism and trade barriers. The latter are winning.
Don’t believe me? **READ** “Building a North American Community”, and compare it to what actually happened since it was published. Point by point, we’ve done the OPPOSITE of what it calls for.
It calls for the Canadian and Mexican borders to be made “transparent.” Instead, we have passport requirements and other new obstacles on the borders for the first time EVER.
It calls for a common tariff. Instead each country has been signing its own free trade agreements with OTHER countries. Canada signed free trade agreements with six other countries in the last two years alone, and is negotiating a “massive economic integration” with the EU. (Free trade, worker mobility and more, but not *joining* the EU.) Canada would not however commit economic suicide and adopt America’s near-free trade with China.
It repeats the call for a common security perimeter. Again, Canada and now the US refuse the idea. The US is spending $10 billion on four new bases on the Canadian border, with new aircraft, unmanned drones, ground sensors, towers and boats to guard the border.
Even trade has been falling apart: From durham wheat to softwood lumber to manufactured goods to livestock, the US no longer honours NAFTA.
“Building a North American Community” is like a 2005 document about how HD-DVD will win over Blu-Ray. We can see in hind-site that the exact opposite happened.
Nor could an EU-style union work in North America. The EU has several major powers, and many smaller ones that can team up. No one country can dominate the rest. North America on the other hand would be dominated the US population and economy. The only way for Canada to join – to avoid “the tyranny of the majority” – is to have EQUAL say over economic, trade and monetary policy. This in turn would be unfair to Americans. It won’t happen.
And so all that’s left is misrepresentations. Like long-disproven claims that the SPP is something it isn’t.
Lee M on October 6, 2010 at 7:19 pm
and what agency are you with, Mr. Strong?
Roger Strong on October 6, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Ah, the true sign of a conspiracy theorist: Anyone who disagrees with the theory is automatically one of Them/They/The Conspiracy.
I’m not part of any agency. I’m just someone who, having seen constant claims of an NAU and an amero, decided to look into them.
Here’s a conspiracy theory for you:
Popular history tells us that Britain looted India. But in reality Britain *lost* money on India, and all her possessions. What was happening was the East India Company was looting the British treasury with the help of a few paid politicians.
This is what Halliburton and KBR are doing. You know – charge the government 15 million dollars to build a cement factory, then pay an Iraqi firm $80,000 (using Saddam’s confiscated funds) to build the factory. Entire cargo palettes of money – billions of dollars – missing. (That’s not an exaggeration. They really did lose actual cargo palettes of money worth billions of dollars.) Vice President Cheney is the former CEO of Halliburton, and still owns considerable stock in it. Cheney’s war has made him very rich indeed.
But while Congress held hearings on those missing $billions, only the comedy show The Daily Show covered it. CNN, Fox and the rest instead devoted the entire week to non-stop coverage of a dead Playboy model.
Glenn Beck constantly whips people into hysteria over easily disproven anti-government fantasies – while ignoring REAL government incompetence and corruption.
While the last administration was turning the country into a stinking torture state, running a massive warrantless wiretapping program, invading a country on false pretenses, going AWOL on Hurricane Katrina and other emergencies….
…WingNutDaily, er, WorldNetDaily spent the entire last administration publishing stories and books about easily disproven claims about the “Amero”, “North American Union”, “10-lane TTC-style megahighway from Mexico to Canada”, “the government agreeing that in the event of a virus outbreak, the WHO would declare martial law in the U.S. backed by UN troops”, and more.
There are valid concerns about 9/11, about whether the government could have done more to prevent it. But the Alex Jones/thermite/controlled demolition/holographic aircraft/freefall fallacy nitwits – themselves – have thoroughly discredited them.
And so with no pressure on the government, Halliburton and KBR get away without prosecution. Without even having to give the money back. Without even losing their jobs and bonuses. The bankers who turned industry-wide mortgage fraud into industry-wide investment fraud, get away without prosecution. Without even having to give the money back. Without even losing their jobs and bonuses. Aside from a few token prosecutions, those in the Enron scams and the 1980s Savings and Loan scams got away with it, and didn’t have to give the money back.
Governments LOVE demagogues like Glenn Beck, Alex Jones and WingNutDaily. “Bread and circuses” to distract the citizens from the REAL issues, and from REAL corruption. The demagogues like to claim that the government wants to silence them. But a corrupt government would create distractions like Beck and Jones and WingNutDaily if they didn’t already exist.
And THAT is what the all-accusation-no-evidence “North American Union” and similar theories are all about.
Mr. Strong, I am inclined to agree with you about Haliburton and KBR, and yes, Mr. Cheney also. I have never been a fan of Dick Cheney – from his alleged search for a vp for Bushll – until his term of office was over. I don’t believe he mounted a legitimate search, I believe the intent all along was for him to fill the vp spot. His whole term was suspect in my eyes. However, that does not change my mind about tne NAU. The hand-over of the government from Bush to Obama was also suspect, IMO, although I don’t recall very many people questioning Dubya’s strange behavior at the time. He seemed to welcome Obama with his arms a little two wide open. I have always felt it was because they were two pals traveling down the same road.
The billions of dollars that went missing in Iraq will never be solved because there were, and are, too many people who benefited by keeping their mouths shut about it.
I can’t agree or disagree with you about Glenn Beck because I am of two minds about him myself. I often wonder why, when he has been contacted about certain corruption, he won’t touch it. Either he is afraid or he is a phoney. As far as I’m concerned the jury is still out on him. Although I am a dedicated Lutheran, Beck disturbss me by introducing religion into his programs. IMO God and religion are personal and private matters and not for tv evangelists or showtime hosts. I don’t believe Beck is intentionaly trying to take our minds off other corruption, I think he is just trying to grab another audience.
Your comments are very interesting, and I agree with you on so many things, but on the NAU I still think you are wrong.
Thanks to Diamond Tiger we have a forum where we can have a discussion of this type without getting hyper about it.
Now that China has decided that the dollar is not the proper global currency does that not change your mind a little that the same idea isn’t percolating somewhere else? I hope we meet again when they start building the NAU Highway and do away with border controls altogether. The Obama administration seems not to care whether there is a border between the U.S. and Mexico already and depending on which way the mid-term election goes we may see some action there.
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Heard your broadcast with the Darling Dame earlier, and thought I’d introduce you and your readers to someone who has been tracking the behemoth for many decades — Henry Lamb at http://sovereignty.net/
Drop along the right side, and you’ll find a great many videos crammed with details on the UN. At the bottom is his latest book – The Rise of Global Governance – it is a compilation of eight of his research papers, crammed full of facts and each chapter has its own Endnotes with details on where the info is provided.
He shows just how the Banksters, the Pilgrims Society, the Bilderbergs, the CFR, the TriLateral Commission, and many other in and out of governments have used and created the League of Nations and the United Nations to undermine and usurp the legitimate powers of every government, including the US Local, County, State, and Federal branches. It really is an awesome compilation.
I urge everyone to get a copy to understand just how far over the cliff we hang. One point I have determined – I will NOT vote for anyone that is a member of the CFR. That eliminates most of the members of Congress and this misbegotten maladministration.
Thanks Brit! I’ll check it out.
The “North American Union” is an old hoax. That is, it was a real idea from real people – YOU TOO can publish such ideas with the same authority as Pastor and Grubel – but the idea that governments are planning it is untrue.
For all the claims of an “Amero by 2006!!!” and a “North American Union by 2007!!!” the conspiracy theorists never did find a single elected official in the US or Canada who wanted it. They never found any sign of legislation for it coming down the pipeline. They never found credible reasoning as to why Canada would join it.
Instead all they did is misrepresent private lobbyists’ ideas as government policy. They misrepresented lobbyists’ papers like “Towards a North American Union” as government policy, even ignoring tha fact that since it was published, the US and Canada have done the opposite point for point of what it calls for.
They misepresented the SPP – a series of minor, non-binding agreements on trade and security with NO political, monetary or common tarrif aspects – as being an NAU. They misrepresented former Mexican President Fox’s CNN comments about a latin American trade union as being about an NAU.
And when a celebrity like Lou Dobbs parroted the conspiracy theory – they treated it as proof of the theory.
Plenty of people were calling for NAFTA – politicians, union leaders, corporate CEOs, etc. There’s been no such demand for any NAU. It’s not happening.
On Otober 15,2004, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations said “Ten years after NAFTA, it is obvious that the security and economic futures of Canada, Mexico and the United States are intimately bound. But there is very little thinking available as to where the three countries need to be in another ten years, and how to get there. I am excited about the potential of this task force to help fill this need”.
Sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations, with the Canadian Council of Chief Executives and the Mexican Council on Foreign Relations an independent task force was formed to study all facets of interaction among the three countries – The United States, Canada and Mexico. The Task Force’s main recommendation is the establishment of a North American Economics and Security Community by 2010. Boundaries would be defined by a COMMON external tariff and an outer security perimeter.
At a meeting in Waco, Texas at the end of March 2005 U.S. President George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin COMMITTED their governments to cooperation and joint action.
SOURCE: The “Building a North American Community” Report (PDF File)
Page 3 of this file states: The Task Force proposes, based on the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders, Bush, Fox and Martin, that “our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complimentary”
The March 2005 in Texas highlighted the importance of building the economic strength of the Continent. The Security and Prosperty Partnership for North America signed by Bush, Fox, and Martin firmed a series of working groups under designated lead cabinet ministers to report regularly on progress.
I would suggest that anyone who doubts that this was a determined effort by certain government officials to begin plans for a NAU, pull up the PDF file entitled “The Building of a North American Community” (2005) and read it in its entirety. Also, since these cabinet ministers were supposed to report regularly on progress, there should be a paper trail there.
“The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. soverignty and independence and submergence into an all powerful one world government” — Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S.Navy.
With our present government’s lax attitude as per relations with Mexico, IMO it all ties in.
The fact that Mexico and 10 other Latino countries feel they have a right to interfere with an immigration law that was passed in Arizona, I for one look at this whole mess with a jaundiced eye.
Mr. Strong, have you any knowledge of this PDF File report? Have you any knowledge of the follow up reports that were supposed to be made? I’m sure I’m not the only American who would like to know.
Again, those are misrepresentations.
Soon after Bush II was elected, he asked Canada for a “Common Security Perimeter.” Canada REFUSED, not wanting to give up sovereignty over its borders and ports.
After 9/11 even the US turned its back on the idea for the same reasons.
“Building a North American Community” was one last gasp from the lobbyists who wanted the idea. But they’re just that: Lobbyists. Not government, not policy-makers. For every lobbyist who wants more integration and trade, there’s another with equal power who wants the opposite – isolationism and trade barriers. The latter are winning.
Don’t believe me? **READ** “Building a North American Community”, and compare it to what actually happened since it was published. Point by point, we’ve done the OPPOSITE of what it calls for.
It calls for the Canadian and Mexican borders to be made “transparent.” Instead, we have passport requirements and other new obstacles on the borders for the first time EVER.
It calls for a common tariff. Instead each country has been signing its own free trade agreements with OTHER countries. Canada signed free trade agreements with six other countries in the last two years alone, and is negotiating a “massive economic integration” with the EU. (Free trade, worker mobility and more, but not *joining* the EU.) Canada would not however commit economic suicide and adopt America’s near-free trade with China.
It repeats the call for a common security perimeter. Again, Canada and now the US refuse the idea. The US is spending $10 billion on four new bases on the Canadian border, with new aircraft, unmanned drones, ground sensors, towers and boats to guard the border.
Even trade has been falling apart: From durham wheat to softwood lumber to manufactured goods to livestock, the US no longer honours NAFTA.
“Building a North American Community” is like a 2005 document about how HD-DVD will win over Blu-Ray. We can see in hind-site that the exact opposite happened.
Nor could an EU-style union work in North America. The EU has several major powers, and many smaller ones that can team up. No one country can dominate the rest. North America on the other hand would be dominated the US population and economy. The only way for Canada to join – to avoid “the tyranny of the majority” – is to have EQUAL say over economic, trade and monetary policy. This in turn would be unfair to Americans. It won’t happen.
And so all that’s left is misrepresentations. Like long-disproven claims that the SPP is something it isn’t.
and what agency are you with, Mr. Strong?
Ah, the true sign of a conspiracy theorist: Anyone who disagrees with the theory is automatically one of Them/They/The Conspiracy.
I’m not part of any agency. I’m just someone who, having seen constant claims of an NAU and an amero, decided to look into them.
Here’s a conspiracy theory for you:
Popular history tells us that Britain looted India. But in reality Britain *lost* money on India, and all her possessions. What was happening was the East India Company was looting the British treasury with the help of a few paid politicians.
This is what Halliburton and KBR are doing. You know – charge the government 15 million dollars to build a cement factory, then pay an Iraqi firm $80,000 (using Saddam’s confiscated funds) to build the factory. Entire cargo palettes of money – billions of dollars – missing. (That’s not an exaggeration. They really did lose actual cargo palettes of money worth billions of dollars.) Vice President Cheney is the former CEO of Halliburton, and still owns considerable stock in it. Cheney’s war has made him very rich indeed.
But while Congress held hearings on those missing $billions, only the comedy show The Daily Show covered it. CNN, Fox and the rest instead devoted the entire week to non-stop coverage of a dead Playboy model.
Glenn Beck constantly whips people into hysteria over easily disproven anti-government fantasies – while ignoring REAL government incompetence and corruption.
While the last administration was turning the country into a stinking torture state, running a massive warrantless wiretapping program, invading a country on false pretenses, going AWOL on Hurricane Katrina and other emergencies….
…WingNutDaily, er, WorldNetDaily spent the entire last administration publishing stories and books about easily disproven claims about the “Amero”, “North American Union”, “10-lane TTC-style megahighway from Mexico to Canada”, “the government agreeing that in the event of a virus outbreak, the WHO would declare martial law in the U.S. backed by UN troops”, and more.
There are valid concerns about 9/11, about whether the government could have done more to prevent it. But the Alex Jones/thermite/controlled demolition/holographic aircraft/freefall fallacy nitwits – themselves – have thoroughly discredited them.
And so with no pressure on the government, Halliburton and KBR get away without prosecution. Without even having to give the money back. Without even losing their jobs and bonuses. The bankers who turned industry-wide mortgage fraud into industry-wide investment fraud, get away without prosecution. Without even having to give the money back. Without even losing their jobs and bonuses. Aside from a few token prosecutions, those in the Enron scams and the 1980s Savings and Loan scams got away with it, and didn’t have to give the money back.
Governments LOVE demagogues like Glenn Beck, Alex Jones and WingNutDaily. “Bread and circuses” to distract the citizens from the REAL issues, and from REAL corruption. The demagogues like to claim that the government wants to silence them. But a corrupt government would create distractions like Beck and Jones and WingNutDaily if they didn’t already exist.
And THAT is what the all-accusation-no-evidence “North American Union” and similar theories are all about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IO1ps1mzU8o
Mr. Strong, I am inclined to agree with you about Haliburton and KBR, and yes, Mr. Cheney also. I have never been a fan of Dick Cheney – from his alleged search for a vp for Bushll – until his term of office was over. I don’t believe he mounted a legitimate search, I believe the intent all along was for him to fill the vp spot. His whole term was suspect in my eyes. However, that does not change my mind about tne NAU. The hand-over of the government from Bush to Obama was also suspect, IMO, although I don’t recall very many people questioning Dubya’s strange behavior at the time. He seemed to welcome Obama with his arms a little two wide open. I have always felt it was because they were two pals traveling down the same road.
The billions of dollars that went missing in Iraq will never be solved because there were, and are, too many people who benefited by keeping their mouths shut about it.
I can’t agree or disagree with you about Glenn Beck because I am of two minds about him myself. I often wonder why, when he has been contacted about certain corruption, he won’t touch it. Either he is afraid or he is a phoney. As far as I’m concerned the jury is still out on him. Although I am a dedicated Lutheran, Beck disturbss me by introducing religion into his programs. IMO God and religion are personal and private matters and not for tv evangelists or showtime hosts. I don’t believe Beck is intentionaly trying to take our minds off other corruption, I think he is just trying to grab another audience.
Your comments are very interesting, and I agree with you on so many things, but on the NAU I still think you are wrong.
Thanks to Diamond Tiger we have a forum where we can have a discussion of this type without getting hyper about it.
Now that China has decided that the dollar is not the proper global currency does that not change your mind a little that the same idea isn’t percolating somewhere else? I hope we meet again when they start building the NAU Highway and do away with border controls altogether. The Obama administration seems not to care whether there is a border between the U.S. and Mexico already and depending on which way the mid-term election goes we may see some action there.