Fascist-In-Charge Nancy Pelosi has used a procedural move to very quietly pass DNA collection legislation that, on any level, violates privacy because of the forced collection from arrestees; not convicted felons.
I had a commenter today try to say that equating Obama’s new interrogation teams to the Gestapo was silly, and he/she implied I was pretty much clueless as to what the Gestapo actually was.
Any given governmental action, in and of itself, might not raise any patriotic alarms, but when they have been placed one right after another over the past ten years, it’s hard not to see the noose tightening.
Let’s add this domino, shall we? You tell me that this isn’t the government tagging it’s property, and that they don’t consider us all to be criminals that have not yet been caught.
(All emphasis from this point on is mine)
House votes to expand national DNA arrest database
Millions of Americans arrested for but not convicted of crimes will likely have their DNA forcibly extracted and added to a national database, according to a bill approved by the U.S. House of Representatives on Tuesday. (Guilty before being proven innocent?)
By a 357 to 32 vote, the House approved legislation that will pay state governments to require DNA samples, which could mean drawing blood with a needle, from adults “arrested for” certain serious crimes. Not one Democrat voted against the database measure, which would hand out about $75 million to states that agree to make such testing mandatory.
“We should allow law enforcement to use all the technology available to them…to reduce expensive and unjust false convictions, bring closure to victims by solving cold cases, better identify criminals, and keep those who commit violent crime from walking the streets,” said Rep. Harry Teague, the New Mexico Democrat who sponsored the bill.
But civil libertarians say DNA samples should be required only from people who have been convicted of crimes, and argue that if there is probable cause to believe that someone is involved in a crime, a judge can sign a warrant allowing a blood sample or cheek swab to be forcibly extracted.
“It’s wrong to treat someone as guilty before they’re convicted,” says Jim Harper, director of information policy studies at the Cato Institute. “It inverts the concept of innocent until proven guilty.”
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic leadership scheduled Tuesday’s debate on the bill–called the Katie Sepich Enhanced DNA Collection Act of 2010–using a procedure known as the “suspension calendar” intended to be reserved for non-controversial legislation.
“Suspension of the rules is supposed to be for praising the winner of the NCAA championship or renaming Post Offices,” Harper says. “Things like collecting Americans’ DNA are supposed to be fully debated in Congress.”
In a surprise move, as the U.S. Congress was expanding the FBI’s DNA database, the U.K.’s new coalition government was pledging sharp curbs on its own databases.
Created in the mid-1990s, the UK National DNA Database originally was supposed to store data on convicted criminals, but grew to include records on more than 5 million Britons, including many who were only arrested on suspicion of a crime.
U.K. Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg promised once-in-a-century privacy reforms in a speech on Wednesday: “We won’t hold your Internet and e-mail records when there is just no reason to do so. CCTV will be properly regulated, as will the DNA database, with restrictions on the storage of innocent people’s DNA. Britain must not be a country where our children grow up so used to their liberty being infringed that they accept it without question.”
The United States has followed a similar pattern: first, DNA was collected from convicted criminals, and then the practice was expanded to sweep in Americans arrested on suspicion of a crime.
A 2000 federal law called the DNA Analysis Backlog Elimination Act required that DNA samples be taken from anyone convicted of or on probation for certain serious crimes. This was challenged in court on Fourth and Fifth Amendment grounds, but a federal appeals court upheld (PDF) the DNA collection requirement as constitutional.
A second bill that President Bush signed in January 2006 said any federal police agency could “collect DNA samples from individuals who are arrested.” Anyone who fails to cooperate is, under federal law, guilty of an additional crime.
In addition, federal law and subsequent regulations from the Department of Justice authorize any means “reasonably necessary to detain, restrain, and collect a DNA sample from an individual who refuses to cooperate in the collection of the sample.” The cheek swab or blood tests can be outsourced to “private entities.”
A May 2009 ruling from a federal judge in California was the first decision to say that police can forcibly take DNA samples from Americans who have been arrested but not convicted of a crime. U.S. Magistrate Judge Gregory Hollows said the requirement of DNA-sampling felony arrestees did not violate the Fourth Amendment’s prohibition of “unreasonable searches and seizures”–but noted that he took no position on whether or not DNA sampling for misdemeanor offenses was reasonable and constitutional.
But that law applied only to federal agencies, and the bill approved this week would provide a strong incentive for state and local governments to follow suit.
If states do follow suit, it’s difficult to overstate how many more DNA samples would flood into the FBI’s Convicted Offender DNA Index System (CODIS) database. Federal agencies arrested about 133,000 people in 2004, according to data compiled by the Urban Institute under a Justice Department grant.
But local and state governments arrested nearly 14 million Americans that year, not counting traffic offenses, according to FBI data.
Rep. Teague’s proposal would extend DNA sampling and testing to anyone arrested on suspicion of burglary or attempted burglary; aggravated assault; murder or attempted murder; manslaughter; sex acts that can be punished by imprisonment for more than one year; and sex offenses against minors. The attorney general would be required to report to Congress which states have and have not signed up for the DNA database.
Rep. Dave Reichert (R-Wash.), a former sheriff who spoke on the House floor in favor of the bill, said the measure is supported by the National Sheriffs’ Association, the National District Attorney’s Association, and the Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network (RAINN).
The legislation would allow states to receive 15 percent “bonuses” from the Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant Program. The program gave out $165 million in local funding and $318 million in state funding for fiscal year 2009, not counting stimulus grants.
“We’re strongly opposed to expanding collection,” says Marc Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center in Washington, D.C. He suggested the U.S. should follow the lead of the European Court of Human Rights, which ruled two years ago that holding DNA samples from people arrested but not convicted of a crime violates their privacy rights.
Imagine Europe is trying to be more American while Obama is trying to hand us over to the jihadists on a silver platter?
When is enough going to be enough for Americans? When will the cowboys be donning their hats?
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Any chance California is waking up to this wacko? After listening to McClintock’s response to Calderon I know there are some people getting elected to office in California that want what is right for America.
This is really sad that the first woman speaker is insane.
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I guess we just were not privy to the saner parts of CA – or then again – most of those people have fled already.
Insane? You are being kind again Kathy.
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Time for all legislators and wannabes to submit to full psych profiles and drug screens….
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And I keep being told i am a great advocate but over zealous, my son should just give his DNA and get over it. What does it matter, if he is innocent he has nothing to worry about in his future, even though the government can now search him with out probable cause without due process without a warrant for just no reason!!! oh and if it’s a close match to a relative they can search them also…after all it’s all in the name of ????? hmmmm oh safety, police procedure the best interest of the people. Call it what you want it’s unconstitutional in so many ways and we are going to fight it.