I received this in an email and it is being posted by numerous bloggers. Maybe if Obama keeps paying millions, and continues to get his media buddies to ignore the stories, it’ll all just go away. Then again, having a father that was a British subject disqualifies him, but who is quibbling….
An AP article about Obama, after his rival “drops out”, from Kenya’s oldest newspaper, The Standard from…
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.
The Standard is an important newspaper in Kenya with a 20% market share, and Kenya’s oldest newspaper. It is owned by The Standard Group, which also runs the KTN Television station. The Standard Group is headquartered at the I&M Bank Tower in Nairobi.
History
The newspaper was established as the African Standard in 1902 as a weekly. The Standard’s founder, Alibhai Mulla Jeevanjee sold the paper to two British businessmen in 1905, who changed the name to the East African Standard. It became a daily paper and moved its headquarters from Mombasa to Nairobi in 1910. At the time the newspaper declared strongly colonialist viewpoints.[1] The British-based Lonrho Group bought the newspaper in 1963, only a few months before Kenya’s independence. The paper changed its name to the Standard in 1977 but the name East African Standard was revived later. It was sold to Kenyan investors in 1995. In 2004 the name was changed back to The Standard. It is the main rival to Kenya’s largest newspaper, the Daily Nation. In 1996, the Standard Group acquired the KTN television channel.
Premises raid, 2006
In late February 2006 The Standard ran a story claiming that president Mwai Kibaki and senior opposition figure Kalonzo Musyoka had been holding secret meetings. At 1:00am local time (2200 UTC), on March 2, masked gunmen carrying AK-47s raided the editorial office of The Standard, and of its television station KTN. They kicked and beat staff members, forcibly took computers and transmission equipment, burned all the copies of the March 2nd edition of the newspaper, and damaged the presses. At KTN, they shut down its flow of electricity, putting the station off the air. Initially, the Kenyan information minister claimed no knowledge of the raid, but has since revealed that Kenyan police were responsible, and stated that the incident was to safeguard state security. “If you rattle a snake you must be prepared to be bitten by it,” John Michuki said. Three journalists at The Standard, arrested after the critical story was printed, were released on March 2 on bail of 50,000 Kenyan shillings (US$692).[2][3][4]
First, if Obama had been born in Kenya there would at least be a Kenyan document showing that his mother arrived in Kenya in 1961. No such document has been found, and the explanation that the Kenyan government has sealed the files is weak, since if the Kenyan government had sealed any files it would have been reported by respected news agencies (NOT WND).
Second, if Obama had been born in Kenya, he would have needed a US travel document to get to the USA, such as a US visa on a British passport or a change to his mother’s passport to include him, and that would have had to have been issued in Kenya. Either of those documents would still be on file at the US State Department, if they existed, and they would have been found, if they existed. But no such document has turned up.
Third, it is absurd to believe that Obama’s mother traveled from Hawaii to Kenya while she was pregnant. Pregnant women rarely traveled long distances in 1961 because of fear of miscarriages, and there were no direct flights in those days, so she would have had to have made four or five stops along the way to Kenya and back, on poorly pressurized planes, and with long-distance airline tickets costing relatively more (compared to average earnings) in those days than now.
Fourth, Obama’s Kenyan grandmother never said that Obama was born in Kenya. She said that he was born in Hawaii. This can be clearly heard if you listen to the complete recording of the tape, which is on Berg’s site. The complete recording includes a question asking “Whereabouts was he born?” And her answer was: “America, Hawaii.”
Sixth, the notices in the Hawaiian newspapers (two newspapers) were sent out by the government of Hawaii for births in Hawaii, and not for births outside of Hawaii. Seventh, the notices confirm the official birth certificate of Hawaii, which says that Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961 (which was before Hawaii allowed foreign births to be registered in Hawaii). The facts on the official birth certificate have been confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii. And finally, there is even a witness who recalls being told of Obama’s birth in Hawaii (because she wrote about the birth to a woman named Stanley to her father, also named Stanley) (http://www.buffalonews.com/494/story/554495.html).
Strauss, you obviously don’t know what it means to be a natural born citizen It makes NO difference where Obama was born. He is still not a natural born citizen and therefore ineligible for POTUS. BOTH parents must be citizens of this country in order to confer natural born citizenship to an offspring. If he is who he says he is, and we have no way of knowing WHO the heck he is, his father was a British National at the time of BOs birth and was definitely never a US citizen. PS All records and documents have been destroyed or sealed. That’s where some of the 1.5 and counting millions have gone to.
leslie on October 16, 2009 at 4:49 am
Frankly, if Obama HAD been a natural born citizen, he still wouldn’t be qualified to be POTUS. So where he was born really makes no difference to me. And to answer one of the questions raised by smrstrauss: my guess is McCain’s campaign either knew and felt they had a good chance (at the time) of winning, or they knew and didn’t want to risk running against HRC. Either way, it makes no difference. it is what it is and we are stuck unless we can impeach him before, or defeat him in, 2012.
Even Nancy does not have his back. I swear words disappear after I hit submit.
smrstrauss on October 19, 2009 at 9:56 am
Re: “BOTH parents must be citizens of this country in order to confer natural born citizenship to an offspring.’
Who says? Vattel? But Vattel recommended each country should establish a state religion. So we did not follow Vattel on everything. So, how do you know that the Constitution followed him on this?
Most likely it didn’t since there was another meaning of Natural Born that stemmed from the laws in the American colonies before the Revolution and from the common law, and it meant “born in the country.” That is why there is a word “naturalize.” It comes from Natural Born, and it means to make someone who is not a citizen like someone who was Natural Born, born in the country and hence a citizen.
And that is why such prominent conservative Senators who are also lawyers as Orren Hatch and Lindsay Graham say that a Natural Born Citizen is simply one who was born in the USA:
Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:
“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)
Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)
And Yale Law Review says: “It is well settled that “native-born” citizens, those born in the United States, qualify as natural born.’
And the Wall Street Journal comments: “Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other. “Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning.”
Strauss – nobody is listening….please throw yourself in the snowbank. Thank you!
smrstrauss on October 20, 2009 at 9:09 am
This is what the National Review said about the story that Obama was born in Kenya: “The theory that Obama was born in Kenya, that he was smuggled into the U.S., and that his parents somehow hoodwinked Hawaiian authorities into falsely certifying his birth in Oahu, is crazy stuff.”
First, if Obama had been born in Kenya there would at least be a Kenyan document showing that his mother arrived in Kenya in 1961. No such document has been found, and the explanation that the Kenyan government has sealed the files is weak, since if the Kenyan government had sealed any files it would have been reported by respected news agencies (NOT WND).
Second, if Obama had been born in Kenya, he would have needed a US travel document to get to the USA, such as a US visa on a British passport or a change to his mother’s passport to include him, and that would have had to have been issued in Kenya. Either of those documents would still be on file at the US State Department, if they existed, and they would have been found, if they existed. But no such document has turned up.
Third, it is absurd to believe that Obama’s mother traveled from Hawaii to Kenya while she was pregnant. Pregnant women rarely traveled long distances in 1961 because of fear of miscarriages, and there were no direct flights in those days, so she would have had to have made four or five stops along the way to Kenya and back, on poorly pressurized planes, and with long-distance airline tickets costing relatively more (compared to average earnings) in those days than now.
Fourth, Obama’s Kenyan grandmother never said that Obama was born in Kenya. She said that he was born in Hawaii. This can be clearly heard if you listen to the complete recording of the tape, which is on Berg’s site. The complete recording includes a question asking “Whereabouts was he born?” And her answer was: “America, Hawaii.”
Here is the complete recording on Berg’s site. Be sure to listen for at least five minutes until the question is asked. (http://obamacrimes.com/Telephone_Interview_with_Sarah_Hussein_Obama_10-16-08.mp3)
If it is too difficult to listen to the complete tape, here is a transcript (http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/obamatranscriptlulu109.pdf).
Fifth, all the allegations of Obama’s birth abroad were checked out by the McCain campaign, and they found that there were no facts. No facts at all. (http://washingtonindependent.com/52474/mccain-campaign-investigated-dismissed-obama-citizenship-rumors)
Sixth, the notices in the Hawaiian newspapers (two newspapers) were sent out by the government of Hawaii for births in Hawaii, and not for births outside of Hawaii. Seventh, the notices confirm the official birth certificate of Hawaii, which says that Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961 (which was before Hawaii allowed foreign births to be registered in Hawaii). The facts on the official birth certificate have been confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii. And finally, there is even a witness who recalls being told of Obama’s birth in Hawaii (because she wrote about the birth to a woman named Stanley to her father, also named Stanley) (http://www.buffalonews.com/494/story/554495.html).
Strauss – feel better?
Strauss, you obviously don’t know what it means to be a natural born citizen It makes NO difference where Obama was born. He is still not a natural born citizen and therefore ineligible for POTUS. BOTH parents must be citizens of this country in order to confer natural born citizenship to an offspring. If he is who he says he is, and we have no way of knowing WHO the heck he is, his father was a British National at the time of BOs birth and was definitely never a US citizen.
PS All records and documents have been destroyed or sealed. That’s where some of the 1.5 and counting millions have gone to.
Frankly, if Obama HAD been a natural born citizen, he still wouldn’t be qualified to be POTUS.
So where he was born really makes no difference to me.
And to answer one of the questions raised by smrstrauss: my guess is McCain’s campaign either knew and felt they had a good chance (at the time) of winning, or they knew and didn’t want to risk running against HRC. Either way, it makes no difference. it is what it is and we are stuck unless we can impeach him before, or defeat him in, 2012.
And Leo Donofrio has now made comment…
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/president-obama-admitted-he-waskenyan-born/
You just got to wonder how long real journalists can ignore this. Oh wait… I forgot… real journalism as we used to know it… is DEAD!
This article has O born in Indonesia, look at the 14th paragraph.
http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=Duckworth+working+to+win&fr=yfp-t-701&u=the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html&w=duckworth+working+work+works+win+won&d=GM0H2929Tkdh&icp=1&.intl=us&sig=RBXQUMEsLQaizrysuDCulg
Same article minus the Indonesia reference.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html
Tea Party in San Francisco Greets Obama: H/T Pumabydesign
http://pumabydesign001.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/tea-party-in-san-francisco-greets-obama/
Even Nancy does have his back.
Even Nancy does not have his back. I swear words disappear after I hit submit.
Re: “BOTH parents must be citizens of this country in order to confer natural born citizenship to an offspring.’
Who says? Vattel? But Vattel recommended each country should establish a state religion. So we did not follow Vattel on everything. So, how do you know that the Constitution followed him on this?
Most likely it didn’t since there was another meaning of Natural Born that stemmed from the laws in the American colonies before the Revolution and from the common law, and it meant “born in the country.” That is why there is a word “naturalize.” It comes from Natural Born, and it means to make someone who is not a citizen like someone who was Natural Born, born in the country and hence a citizen.
And that is why such prominent conservative Senators who are also lawyers as Orren Hatch and Lindsay Graham say that a Natural Born Citizen is simply one who was born in the USA:
Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:
“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)
Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)
And Yale Law Review says: “It is well settled that “native-born” citizens, those born in the United States, qualify as natural born.’
And the Wall Street Journal comments: “Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other. “Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning.”
Strauss – nobody is listening….please throw yourself in the snowbank. Thank you!
This is what the National Review said about the story that Obama was born in Kenya: “The theory that Obama was born in Kenya, that he was smuggled into the U.S., and that his parents somehow hoodwinked Hawaiian authorities into falsely certifying his birth in Oahu, is crazy stuff.”
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmJhMzlmZWFhOTQ3YjUxMDE2YWY4ZDMzZjZlYTVmZmU=&w=MA