What IS The Agenda?


I have spent the last 2 1/2 days getting ready for a hurricane tropical storm that can’t seem to decide how big and what path it is actually going to take.  I have also not been writing because I have been watching, and background processing, and the only question that keeps coming up over and over again is, “What IS the agenda of the democrats and this WH?” Nobody could possibly be so stupid as to attack the American public unless they want to achieve an outcome they already know is coming. Something about all of this reeks of “timing”. I still say that we do not need to do healthcare reform RIGHT THIS MINUTE!

By now almost anybody paying attention to the news today has heard about Nancy and Steny going off the deep end calling dissenters “un-American”.

Please keep the definition of fascism in mind as you peruse.

a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

‘Un-American’ attacks can’t derail health care debate

Americans have been waiting for nearly a century for quality, affordable health care.

Health coverage for all was on the national agenda as early as 1912, thanks to Teddy Roosevelt’s Bull Moose presidential run. Months after World War II came to an end in 1945, President Harry Truman called on Congress to guarantee all Americans the “right to adequate medical care and protection from the economic fears of sickness.” From President Lyndon Johnson to President Bill Clinton, to President Obama’s winning campaign on the promise of reform, there hasn’t been a more debated domestic issue than the promise of affordable health care for all.

(Steny Hoyer)

Obviously Steny has never read the chapter in this book about Teddy Roosevelt; on second thought, maybe he has:

Now, it’s Nancy’s turn to ratchet up the rhetoric and drive the ponies toward the cliff; but listen closely and you will see what she is afraid of, and what they are intending.  This is ONLY my humble thought processes; make sure to report me to snitch.gov.

We believe it is healthy for such a historic effort to be subject to so much scrutiny and debate. The failure of past attempts is a reminder that health insurance reform is a defining moment in our nation’s history — it is well worth the time it takes to get it right. We are confident that we will get this right.

Translation: We will get a public option that will lead to single payer health care which will put every single American on the road to complete socialism.  Of course we are going to take the time to get it right; we are so close to flipping this country from capitalism to socialism that we will do what it takes to make it happen.

Already, three House committees have passed this critical legislation and over August, the two of us will work closely with those three committees to produce one strong piece of legislation that the House will approve in September.

We are going to get socialist medicine no matter what it takes.

In the meantime, as members of Congress spend time at home during August, they are talking with their constituents about reform. The dialogue between elected representatives and constituents is at the heart of our democracy and plays an integral role in assuring that the legislation we write reflects the genuine needs and concerns of the people we represent.

Nancy is living in an alternate reality if she can write that and then write this:

However, it is now evident that an ugly campaign is underway not merely to misrepresent the health insurance reform legislation, but to disrupt public meetings and prevent members of Congress and constituents from conducting a civil dialogue. These tactics have included hanging in effigy one Democratic member of Congress in Maryland and protesters holding a sign displaying a tombstone with the name of another congressman in Texas, where protesters also shouted “Just say no!” drowning out those who wanted to hold a substantive discussion.

Let the facts be heard

These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views — but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American. Drowning out the facts is how we failed at this task for decades.

The facts?

Now — with Americans strongly supporting health insurance reform, with Congress reaching consensus on a plan, and with a president who ran and won on this specific promise of change — America is closer than ever to this century-deferred goal.

This fall, at long last, we must reach it.

Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., is speaker of the House

It appears Nancy is trying to herd the dissenters into one little group off in the snowbank while she “links” Americans supporting health insurance reform with Congress reaching a consensus, which unfortunately for her is the farthest scenerio from the truth.

From Rasmussen:

The Public’s View of Health Care Debate

Over the past few months, Rasmussen Reports has conducted many surveys on the topic of health care reform. As July comes to an end and Congress prepares to take a break from Washington, the following reports highlight public attitudes on a variety of health care topics.

Just 47% Favor Congressional Health Care Reform, 49% Oppose

23% Believe Health Care Costs Will Go Down if Reform Passes Congress

Only 18% Say Those With Chronic Conditions Should Pay More in Health Insurance

Cost, Not Universal Coverage, is Top Health Care Concern for Voters

50% Oppose Government Health Insurance Company

78% Say Health Care Reform Likely to Mean Higher Taxes for the Middle Class

Massachusetts: 26% Consider State’s Health Care Reform a Success

Americans Evenly Divided Over Urgency of Health Care Reform

Americans Support Universal Health Coverage, But Not If It Covers Illegal Immigrants

Congressional Consensus on Health Care Gets Mixed Reviews from Public

31% Say Healthy Should Be Required to Buy Health Insurance

50% Support More Taxes on Alcohol To Help Fund Universal Health Care

42% Favor Free Health Care For All Americans – Unless Their Own Coverage Has To Change

56% of Uninsured Rate U.S. Health Care System as Poor, 26% Receive Poor Care

32% Would Pay Higher Taxes to Provide Health Insurance for All

35% Rate U.S. Health Care Good or Excellent

70% of Insured Rate Health Insurance Coverage As Good or Excellent

54% Favor Middle Class Tax Cuts Over New Health Care Spending

Consensus? What consensus?

But I got sucked into that and I digress…

What is the agenda that the dems are all about right now?  What?  Class War? Martial Law? Learned helplessness? Demoralization? Complete destruction of the middle class?

I am still looking and learning more about the foundations that are in the background.  I will find the answer, as I know it is staring me in the face, and maybe I am just suffering from disbelief…

By Logistics Monster


  • You know, DT… this is the thought that keeps rolling in my head all the time… “these people can’t be THIS stupid.”

    But, I finally came to the realization of the fact that these people live inside a box… the box of Statism. Statism is the antithesis of individual liberty. For these folks, the State is their god… it is their reality and their “truth.” For them, nothing exists outside the box. Everything must bow in submission to their god (the State) and to what’s inside the box. But, the real truth is the Statist view is a lie.

    For those of us who believe in individual liberty, the State is not our god, but a vast majority of us believe in something outside ourselves that has endowed us with that liberty. I personally believe that is the eternal God/Creator, as did the Founders of this country. Those who believe in individual liberty know there is more than what is inside the box and that the Creator/God is able to transcend all realms.

    These views are diametrically opposed to each other. There can be no compromise… to do so is to renounce one’s beliefs and principles. This is why we are seeing such a polarity in views in this country. When we talk to people of the Statist view about individual liberty, we might as well be speaking a foreign language… it is not in their version of the “truth”… not in their reality… not of the box.

    So… what IS the agenda?

    It is to force everyone inside the box where they believe there is no Creator/God and no individual liberty. Obama DeathCare is really a manifestation of the lie.

    We have to continue to fight the lie and remain faithful to the truth.

  • It seems obvious to me that the Democrats’ plan is something that will not unveil itself until it is too late should we allow it to manifest. There is something drastically wrong when people in power look down upon the people they are supposed to represent. Worse still those same members that ignore the will of the people and act anyway.

    I have no regard for the Democratic party. Though I don’t agree with Rush Limbaugh on nearly everything I do agree with him that I hope Obama fails. I don’t want or need the vision he and the Democrats are planning. Because whatever they say, they are hiding the truth from us. And I lost ALL of my trust for their party last year.

    Worse than what Obama, Pelosi, Hoyer and Reid say is what they actually do.

    So this ISN’T Astroturf?

  • One further comment… some quotes from the Founders:

    “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
    — John Adams

    “I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”
    — James Madison

    “It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.”
    — James Madison

  • no-nonsence-nancy -

    Funny thing. Just posted a comment and then a message came on my screen saying, “You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down”. Never had that before. I’ll try again.

    Thank you Dug, for the quotes. James Madison really hit it on the head. These bills that are 1000 plus pages long that nobody has time to read and with language that the average person can’t understand. I tried to read HNR3200 but I had trouble understanding it and I am a fairly intelligent person. I wonder if all of these congress critters are able to understand the language?

    DT, thanks again, for all of your research and time that you put in so we can be informed. I really appreciate it.

  • I believe that their agenda is simple: Chaos.

    TPTB want such utter chaos, confusion, and widespread pain and suffering that the citizens of the entire world will come clamoring to them begging to be rescued, no matter what the cost.

    Only then will we truly comprehend how dear a price we can indeed pay. Only then will we truly learn the depth of the evil in man’s soul.

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