All of the laws and statutes of the land are to be obeyed.
The cops did their job and were courteous.
The young republicans were not.
Shouldn’t you be ashamed of this??
I would.
Practical Madman on August 5, 2009 at 1:29 am
bonncaruso- you are WRONG!!WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!!!!
This is OUR country, and peaceful demonstrations ARE WHAT this country are all about, ESPECIALLY in the capitol!!!!!
We have the freedom of speech and right to petition our government…err. HAD..err…oh yea…we don’t have a government anymore, we are ruled by a foreign corporation that has changed our form of government into a fascist state that is in the process of morphing into a fascist POLICE state!
We are no longer free to walk our public sidewalks unless approved. Jason Bermas (works with Alex Jones) was in DC, Philadelphia, and a few other places in the past 2 weeks, photographing old buildings, and EVERY time he took out the camera a uniformed (usually private not public) police officer showed up and told them to put it away, photographs were not legal. It seems that it is now illegal to take photographs of public buildings from a public sidewalk!
So bonncaruso- you are WRONG!! If some police officer came up to me and told me that I was breaking a law, some vague law that is impossible to know exists in the 10,000 volume book of laws THEY have created to govern our every breath, a law that clearly violates the MAIN LAW, the CONSTITUTION, I will let him know what I think, just like these kids did. I am proud of them, We all need to get upset and let THEM know we are pissed and not going to take it anymore. This is America not Amerika!
So it is evidently “against the law” to walk around with signs without a permit. So where does the law stop? Could 10,000 people without signs and with only t-shirts with a message “walk around” in the same area or does a political t-shirt count as a protest?
bonncaruso- Yes the cops were courteous, but you mentioned the youngsters were not. That is BS; they were very courteous especially since the rights they thought they had (First Amendment) have apparently been over ruled by some obscure National Park law. I would have asked twice too.
I believe that was what the Nuremberg trials were all about…
bonncaruso,
1) They are not Republicans. They are Libertarians. There is a difference. Know your facts first.
2) I am proud of these youth. They stood by their beliefs and went to the nation’s capitol to protest a bill they feel is unconstitutional. What would you rather they do – go to a bunch of pro-facsist web sites and drop random comments? Seems like you already have that wrapped up pretty well.
Those kids looked like they needed to be taught a lesson by the goon squad. Don’t they know they must bow down before their masters in blue? Was I the only one getting that vibe from the park ranger? Submit or watch me use force against you!
bonncaruso – There are laws, and then there is the Constitution, which applies in a Federal Park / District. Know your law sir: “All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.” — Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. (2 Cranch) 137 (1803)
The Constitution acknowledges those rights, it does not grant them. The people hold several truths to be self-evident – Among them, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights… (maybe you heard the rest?)
“A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate.” – Thomas Jefferson
“Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.” – Thomas Jefferson
Perverted is when a park ranger tells people that they do not have the right to assemble nor to speak freely in a national park, he threatens them with use of force, and then the goon squad arrives in military hardware to force their commands upon their alleged subjects!
“A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.” -Edward Abbey
The previous government of this place developed a similar attitude about people speaking freely. So the detained some and threatened others.
So, in the course of human events, it became necessary for a people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another.
From 1775-1781, Col. Banastre Tarleton held a similar view of those upity little people not listening to his commands, and speaking ill of his authority. Didn’t they know they were subjects to his authority, and could be crushed likes bugs if he willed it? (Which he did quite often.)
Tarleton’s use of force against ‘his subjects’ merely steeled their resolve, and the resolve of all like minded folks.
Everyone of those kids, who saw that military truck and felt deep down what was being threatened, now understands what ‘jack booted terrorist’ means. And they were ‘libertarians’ before? They’ll be much more effective hereafter.
Leaping Spark on August 5, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Patriots, the Communist dictatorship of Comrade Obama is happening before our very eyes. Will the police officers and military up hold their oath to the Constitution or will they swear their allegiance to Comrade Obama? I think we are beginning to see where some of them have aready placed their loyalty.
Americans are becoming a society of sheep, and we are being set upon by a government of wolves. America the republic was not estalished by sheep and cowards; and sheep and cowards will not preserve it. America will remain the land of the free only as long as it is the home of the brave. The coming communist dictatorship of Obama will not be deterred by words or congressional votes that do not favor his policies, he will run rough shod over congress and the America people will equal disregard for all. The time for words is quickly passing, the communist will not hesitate to arrest or strike down patriots that speak of rights, liberty, freedom, and the Constitution. ” Beware Patriots lest in your anxiety to avoid confrontation you obtain a master”
You're a Bunch of Fearmongers on August 12, 2009 at 12:49 pm
If you can’t fix stupid then you guys should give up right now.
matthew s harrison on August 19, 2009 at 10:06 am
Great work kids-that is some brave stuff. That cop was breaking the law-as you were not an assembly of people large enough to require a permit. Second, you can walk around anywhere you want with signs, on or off park service lands, as long as you are not “disruptive”. That wasn’t an organized protest-you were a small group.
Hilarious they sent the SWAT guys out-imagine what these morons will do when there are a million of us there on 9-12! Keep voicing your free speech-and try to recruit more kids-too many of the kids nowadays are swayed by celebrities to be libs cause they think it is cool! MSH
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Once again, know the law first.
All of the laws and statutes of the land are to be obeyed.
The cops did their job and were courteous.
The young republicans were not.
Shouldn’t you be ashamed of this??
I would.
bonncaruso- you are WRONG!!WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!!!!
This is OUR country, and peaceful demonstrations ARE WHAT this country are all about, ESPECIALLY in the capitol!!!!!
We have the freedom of speech and right to petition our government…err. HAD..err…oh yea…we don’t have a government anymore, we are ruled by a foreign corporation that has changed our form of government into a fascist state that is in the process of morphing into a fascist POLICE state!
We are no longer free to walk our public sidewalks unless approved. Jason Bermas (works with Alex Jones) was in DC, Philadelphia, and a few other places in the past 2 weeks, photographing old buildings, and EVERY time he took out the camera a uniformed (usually private not public) police officer showed up and told them to put it away, photographs were not legal. It seems that it is now illegal to take photographs of public buildings from a public sidewalk!
So bonncaruso- you are WRONG!! If some police officer came up to me and told me that I was breaking a law, some vague law that is impossible to know exists in the 10,000 volume book of laws THEY have created to govern our every breath, a law that clearly violates the MAIN LAW, the CONSTITUTION, I will let him know what I think, just like these kids did. I am proud of them, We all need to get upset and let THEM know we are pissed and not going to take it anymore. This is America not Amerika!
Slate testing the waters, what if Obama was born in Kenya…smoke and fire?
http://www.slate.com/id/2224167/
So it is evidently “against the law” to walk around with signs without a permit. So where does the law stop? Could 10,000 people without signs and with only t-shirts with a message “walk around” in the same area or does a political t-shirt count as a protest?
bonncaruso- Yes the cops were courteous, but you mentioned the youngsters were not. That is BS; they were very courteous especially since the rights they thought they had (First Amendment) have apparently been over ruled by some obscure National Park law. I would have asked twice too.
Cop – “I’m just doing my job”
I’m sure that’s exactly what the Nazis said.
Jack,
I believe that was what the Nuremberg trials were all about…
bonncaruso,
1) They are not Republicans. They are Libertarians. There is a difference. Know your facts first.
2) I am proud of these youth. They stood by their beliefs and went to the nation’s capitol to protest a bill they feel is unconstitutional. What would you rather they do – go to a bunch of pro-facsist web sites and drop random comments? Seems like you already have that wrapped up pretty well.
3) Do you have a parka?
nice truck!
Those kids looked like they needed to be taught a lesson by the goon squad. Don’t they know they must bow down before their masters in blue? Was I the only one getting that vibe from the park ranger? Submit or watch me use force against you!
bonncaruso – There are laws, and then there is the Constitution, which applies in a Federal Park / District. Know your law sir:
“All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.” — Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. (2 Cranch) 137 (1803)
The Constitution acknowledges those rights, it does not grant them. The people hold several truths to be self-evident – Among them, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights… (maybe you heard the rest?)
“A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate.”
– Thomas Jefferson
“Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.”
– Thomas Jefferson
Perverted is when a park ranger tells people that they do not have the right to assemble nor to speak freely in a national park, he threatens them with use of force, and then the goon squad arrives in military hardware to force their commands upon their alleged subjects!
“A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.”
-Edward Abbey
The previous government of this place developed a similar attitude about people speaking freely. So the detained some and threatened others.
So, in the course of human events, it became necessary for a people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another.
From 1775-1781, Col. Banastre Tarleton held a similar view of those upity little people not listening to his commands, and speaking ill of his authority. Didn’t they know they were subjects to his authority, and could be crushed likes bugs if he willed it? (Which he did quite often.)
Tarleton’s use of force against ‘his subjects’ merely steeled their resolve, and the resolve of all like minded folks.
Everyone of those kids, who saw that military truck and felt deep down what was being threatened, now understands what ‘jack booted terrorist’ means. And they were ‘libertarians’ before? They’ll be much more effective hereafter.
Patriots, the Communist dictatorship of Comrade Obama is happening before our very eyes. Will the police officers and military up hold their oath to the Constitution or will they swear their allegiance to Comrade Obama? I think we are beginning to see where some of them have aready placed their loyalty.
Americans are becoming a society of sheep, and we are being set upon by a government of wolves. America the republic was not estalished by sheep and cowards; and sheep and cowards will not preserve it. America will remain the land of the free only as long as it is the home of the brave. The coming communist dictatorship of Obama will not be deterred by words or congressional votes that do not favor his policies, he will run rough shod over congress and the America people will equal disregard for all. The time for words is quickly passing, the communist will not hesitate to arrest or strike down patriots that speak of rights, liberty, freedom, and the Constitution. ” Beware Patriots lest in your anxiety to avoid confrontation you obtain a master”
If you can’t fix stupid then you guys should give up right now.
Great work kids-that is some brave stuff. That cop was breaking the law-as you were not an assembly of people large enough to require a permit.
Second, you can walk around anywhere you want with signs, on or off park service lands, as long as you are not “disruptive”.
That wasn’t an organized protest-you were a small group.
Hilarious they sent the SWAT guys out-imagine what these morons will do when there are a million of us there on 9-12!
Keep voicing your free speech-and try to recruit more kids-too many of the kids nowadays are swayed by celebrities to be libs cause they think it is cool!
MSH