Want to know the truth about the strategy to move every American onto single payer health care where a bureaucrat decides whether you live or die? Nothing says “the truth” like tape; always get tape:
Everybody should be aware by now that the Liberal Left wing of the Democratic Party is completely pissing off the Conservative Wing (The Blue Dog Dems), and the left is hell-bent on getting this legislation passed as it is the first step in the total control of Americans without a shot being fired.
There have been rumblings about Nancy Pelosi, Rahm Emanuel, Henry Waxman, the Blue Dogs, and this legislation going for a vote next week.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will bypass the committee working on the chamber’s health-care reform bill and put the legislation to a full floor vote by next week, Rep. Tom Price said Friday.
“My sense as of last night is her plan is now to bring the bill to the floor,” said Mr. Price, a Georgia Republican and orthopedic doctor. He spoke on The Washington Times “America’s Morning News” radio show. “We’ve witnessed some remarkable conversations and discussions between the speaker and others that leads me to believe she’s going to pull a power play.”
Mrs. Pelosi, California Democrat, participated in a three-hour meeting Thursday on Capitol Hill in which she and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel tried to negotiate with fiscally conservative Democrats on the House Energy and Commerce Committee, where work on the bill has stopped.
WASHINGTON (CNN) — House Democrats split sharply over the issue of health care reform Friday as negotiations between a committee chairman and party conservatives broke down.
A key leader of the party’s conservative faction later warned the party leadership not to ram the current version of the health care bill through by circumventing the traditional legislative process.
The escalating tension within the ranks of House Democrats raised new questions about the bill’s prospects.
House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry Waxman told reporters on Capitol Hill that he is willing to keep talking with members of the Blue Dog coalition — an influential group of fiscal conservatives — but also made clear he intends to move forward with the legislation.
Waxman, a California Democrat, indicated that he would bypass a committee vote if necessary and bring the bill directly to the House floor for a final vote.
“We’re not going to let (the Blue Dogs) empower the Republicans. I don’t see any other alternative,” he said.
I thought this was about the American people, not a pissing match between the dems and repubs?
Rep. Mike Ross of Arkansas, one of the leaders of the 52-member Blue Dog coalition, predicted that the bill would fail if Waxman circumvented the committee.
“I think it would be a huge mistake if they removed the bill … and simply (took) it to the House floor,” he said.
Ross is one of seven Blue Dog Democrats on Waxman’s committee. Combined with the Republicans, they have the votes to prevent the committee’s passage of the bill.
“We’re not empowering Republicans,” Ross insisted. “We’re trying to save this bill and save our party. … We’re every much Democrats as anyone else that’s on the committee.”
I like that comment “…save our party.” It says volumes about how the Blue Dogs feel about the Obama administration and the liberal left wing of their party. I think they are realizing that they are going to be decimated if they keep ramming unread bills that cost trillions through congress.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said earlier in the week that she believes she already has the votes to pass the current version of the health care plan. Ross, however, insisted Friday that Pelosi was wrong.
“It’s not just the seven of us on the Energy and Commerce Committee that are conservative Democrats that have concerns with the bill,” he said.
“It’s almost the entire Blue Dog coalition, and I can tell you if (the Democratic leadership tries) to bring it up for a vote on the House floor, it would be a mistake,” said Ross.
Remember when Obama said that he would unite us? This is a three-way fight if you don’t include the American people. Amazing, truly amazing.
Remember Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) from the above video stating:
“A public option will put the private insurance industry out of business AND lead to single payer.” ” My single payer friends…he was right! The man was right.”
“This is not a principled fight, this is a fight about strategy for getting there, and I believe we will!”
Jan made those comments on April 18th, 2009, and on May 5, 2009 she did not even make an attempt to walk it back. Rather, she just changed the subject.
If you are an American that is just waking up to the covert agenda of this administration, check out the related links to catch up. This is not socialism as I first thought, it’s fascism.
(Monster Readers and Newbies – please send the first video around to EVERYBODY! It shows exactly how the dems are operating.)
(P.S. Once again I am having to self promote – if you like what you find here on the Monster – throw a few kibbies at my donate button so that I can attend the Tea Party in Washington DC on 9.12.09).
allahallahoxenfree – Personally, I liked Iowahawk’s suggestion to NASA to revitalize the space program and allow the public to realize their lifelong dream.
Send Congress… ALL of them… to the MOON by 2010.
California Patriot on July 26, 2009 at 5:41 am
This is totally off topic, but I have to comment. I never would have figured this:
“Stop taking your eyes off the ball of Obama DeathCare by being drawn into the Gates/Cambridge Police Officer Merry-Go-Round. This is Rahm Emanuel exploiting a situation!”
In it is an interview of Betsy McCaughy who has read the entire House death care bill! What she exposes is sickening. UGH!
DaveinPhoenix on July 26, 2009 at 7:32 am
Absolutely true – it’s ALL about money and power. Despite an obese nation of couch potatoes, Americans are living longer with many working into their 80’s. Yes, it is costly to fix a person’s health after a lifetime of unhealthy lifestyles. But that is our choice and we pay for it. Personal health care is our responsibility and like so many other responsibilities, we have in the past 50 years turned towards government for a solution to our own failings. The waste, fraud, mismanagement, lobbyists and bureaucracy should have been fixed long ago rather than now federalizing the entire system. Why do we always turn to what has always failed us in the past: the federal government ? Why do we automatically turn towards the most inefficient solution to our own failure of responsibility ? How many more laws do we need from Congress ? How many more czars ? How many more agencies, committees ? How many more middlemen ? And how many more times will we see success punished and outright failure rewarded by a truly unexceptional American government ? Are we quite finished, America ?
Practical Madman on July 26, 2009 at 8:06 am
I have a heavy heart as I make this post. I do not believe in the Medical community in general, and I do not believe in “their” ‘health care’. They are a entity created by the Rockefeller dominated, AMA, FDA, CDC, and a host of other alphabet soup entities that brainwash us into believing what they want us to believe. The life expectancy in America has dropped to 68 year- not 78 as posted elsewhere in this thread.
Most of the friends I grew up with are dead (I’m only 54) and most by cancer. 30 years ago there were 1 in 300 with cancer, today it is 1 in 3. Does this sound anything like a ‘good practice of medicine’? We have invested hundreds of millions into “research” and only made the problem worse, for more people die from the treatment than the disease.
There are many, many ‘natural’ remedies for good health that are scoffed at by the medical community, and are soon to be made illegal by Codex Alimentarious. If anyone tries to make these alternatives brought into the awareness of the general populous, they are hit hard by the IRS and a host of the alphabet agencies, and soon silenced. Does this sound like a government and medical community that has your best interest at heart? I have made posts on this site regarding some of these natural options before, and there is a great deal of information that is out there for those that wish to research the subject, but suffice to say, medical “science” is barking up the wrong tree.
Don’t get me wrong, doctors and medicine have a place. When you have injuries, they can repair you, when you have broken bones, they can repair you, but they know absolutely nothing about “health” and how to maintain it. Doctors today are taught in schools dominated by text books financed by the Rockefeller dynasty, in buildings provided by the same, and know only to write prescriptions for pharmaceuticals from the industry owned mostly by the same, and the government that exists in Washington is generally dominated and paid for by the same entities.
Too large of a percentage of the population is on medications that distort their thought processes and perceptions. Too many are dependent on the next TV commercial to tell them what to demand from their doctor in the latest and greatest drug, or to define the latest “new” disease or affliction that did not exist 5 years ago.
Health care has been manipulated by the powerful rich that have only one motive…more power and wealth. I used to have a reasonably priced “catastrophic” insurance that only paid in case of severe bodily damage. This type of insurance was eventually made non existent because it did no provide for me to be on a “maintenance” that put tons of drugs into my body. Now this powerful cabal will make it mandatory for me to have insurance supplied by the evil government, and fine me severely if I do not submit to this extortion, and said fines to be collected by the heavy handed branch of this cabal known as the IRS. Then because of my age, possibly deny me the things I may need.
This government is corrupt beyond recognition. No amount of phone calls or letters will change their minds, for TPTB have “something” on every one of them and will get their wish fulfilled. They “let” a few of them vote against things just to keep up appearances, and from time to time they “put things on the back burner” for a while, but in the end “THEY” always get their way.
Make no mistake, we WILL get some form of health care forced on us. Make no mistake, this in NOT your ‘government”, it is a evil cabal. Make no mistake, it is not for our “good” but rather for theirs. It is time to organize and prepare for defense of the constitution that is all but a shadow of it’s intentions as created by the founders.
There are far too many “Jack Smiths” out there. People that are not capable of rational thinking. People that are brainwashed into believing that the kool-aid is “good for you”. “I am from the government, and I am here to help”….yea RIGHT! Help me by getting out of my life, my body, and my free will!
allahallahoxenfree – Personally, I liked Iowahawk’s suggestion to NASA to revitalize the space program and allow the public to realize their lifelong dream.
Send Congress… ALL of them… to the MOON by 2010.
This is totally off topic, but I have to comment. I never would have figured this:
“Stop taking your eyes off the ball of Obama DeathCare by being drawn into the Gates/Cambridge Police Officer Merry-Go-Round. This is Rahm Emanuel exploiting a situation!”
We’re being distracted again! Good work DT.
By the way it really is ObamaDeathCare. According to the House Bill I will be counseled every five years on how to end my life because I am a Medicare recipient…I’m not even 50 years old yet. Read the following post:
http://msplaceddemocrat.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/the-house-health-care-bill-says-i-have-to-learn-to-kill-myself/
In it is an interview of Betsy McCaughy who has read the entire House death care bill! What she exposes is sickening. UGH!
Absolutely true – it’s ALL about money and power. Despite an obese nation of couch potatoes, Americans are living longer with many working into their 80’s. Yes, it is costly to fix a person’s health after a lifetime of unhealthy lifestyles. But that is our choice and we pay for it. Personal health care is our responsibility and like so many other responsibilities, we have in the past 50 years turned towards government for a solution to our own failings. The waste, fraud, mismanagement, lobbyists and bureaucracy should have been fixed long ago rather than now federalizing the entire system. Why do we always turn to what has always failed us in the past: the federal government ? Why do we automatically turn towards the most inefficient solution to our own failure of responsibility ? How many more laws do we need from Congress ? How many more czars ? How many more agencies, committees ? How many more middlemen ? And how many more times will we see success punished and outright failure rewarded by a truly unexceptional American government ? Are we quite finished, America ?
I have a heavy heart as I make this post. I do not believe in the Medical community in general, and I do not believe in “their” ‘health care’. They are a entity created by the Rockefeller dominated, AMA, FDA, CDC, and a host of other alphabet soup entities that brainwash us into believing what they want us to believe. The life expectancy in America has dropped to 68 year- not 78 as posted elsewhere in this thread.
Most of the friends I grew up with are dead (I’m only 54) and most by cancer. 30 years ago there were 1 in 300 with cancer, today it is 1 in 3. Does this sound anything like a ‘good practice of medicine’? We have invested hundreds of millions into “research” and only made the problem worse, for more people die from the treatment than the disease.
There are many, many ‘natural’ remedies for good health that are scoffed at by the medical community, and are soon to be made illegal by Codex Alimentarious. If anyone tries to make these alternatives brought into the awareness of the general populous, they are hit hard by the IRS and a host of the alphabet agencies, and soon silenced. Does this sound like a government and medical community that has your best interest at heart? I have made posts on this site regarding some of these natural options before, and there is a great deal of information that is out there for those that wish to research the subject, but suffice to say, medical “science” is barking up the wrong tree.
Don’t get me wrong, doctors and medicine have a place. When you have injuries, they can repair you, when you have broken bones, they can repair you, but they know absolutely nothing about “health” and how to maintain it. Doctors today are taught in schools dominated by text books financed by the Rockefeller dynasty, in buildings provided by the same, and know only to write prescriptions for pharmaceuticals from the industry owned mostly by the same, and the government that exists in Washington is generally dominated and paid for by the same entities.
Too large of a percentage of the population is on medications that distort their thought processes and perceptions. Too many are dependent on the next TV commercial to tell them what to demand from their doctor in the latest and greatest drug, or to define the latest “new” disease or affliction that did not exist 5 years ago.
Health care has been manipulated by the powerful rich that have only one motive…more power and wealth. I used to have a reasonably priced “catastrophic” insurance that only paid in case of severe bodily damage. This type of insurance was eventually made non existent because it did no provide for me to be on a “maintenance” that put tons of drugs into my body. Now this powerful cabal will make it mandatory for me to have insurance supplied by the evil government, and fine me severely if I do not submit to this extortion, and said fines to be collected by the heavy handed branch of this cabal known as the IRS. Then because of my age, possibly deny me the things I may need.
This government is corrupt beyond recognition. No amount of phone calls or letters will change their minds, for TPTB have “something” on every one of them and will get their wish fulfilled. They “let” a few of them vote against things just to keep up appearances, and from time to time they “put things on the back burner” for a while, but in the end “THEY” always get their way.
Make no mistake, we WILL get some form of health care forced on us. Make no mistake, this in NOT your ‘government”, it is a evil cabal. Make no mistake, it is not for our “good” but rather for theirs. It is time to organize and prepare for defense of the constitution that is all but a shadow of it’s intentions as created by the founders.
There are far too many “Jack Smiths” out there. People that are not capable of rational thinking. People that are brainwashed into believing that the kool-aid is “good for you”. “I am from the government, and I am here to help”….yea RIGHT! Help me by getting out of my life, my body, and my free will!
Chris Muir has done it again…
http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/2009/07/26/
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