H.R. 2401: No Fly, No Buy Act Of 2009

For all you liberal fans of non-representative Representative Carolyn McCarthy of New York, you better start understanding that the corrupt government in Washington is bringing the hammer down in one very sneaky, fascist, anti-American and anti-Founding Fathers maneuver that is happening with your blessing because you are backing this dipshit in NY. (And I am wayyyyyyyy past being respectful of people that do not respect the Constitution; the name-calling will begin.)

It is time to realize that the inmates are running the asylum when the “no-fly” list is being used to take away legitimate, law-abiding American citizen’s rights with no crime being committed, no charges being filed or any conviction in a court of law.

This new bill that has been introduced sounds fairly normal, but then again with these bastards you really, really have to read the fine print; just like the credit card companies.  Just look at the name of this bill and you know what is going to occur.  If your name comes up on the “no-fly list”, you will not be able to ship, transport, possess or receive (purchase) a firearm.  So I guess EVERYBODY better stop flying because it will be really easy for “them”, whoever they are, to put everybody’s name on this list, (including children; they already did it to a 5  year old*).

Add to that insanity above the fact that the “no-fly list” is so incredibly error filled that it even kept Senator Kennedy from flying 5 separate times.  As of March 10, 2009, the “government” has confirmed that the list has reached ONE MILLION NAMES. Now none of this surprises any of us here in the middle and on the conservative side because we are all already domestic terrorists because we are breathing with our mouths closed, did not drink the koolaid, and are not named Janeane.

As always, I have read the whole document and have emphasised the portions that are applicable.

From GovTrack:

H.R. 2401: No Fly, No Buy Act of 2009

To increase public safety and reduce the threat to domestic security by including persons who may be prevented from boarding an aircraft in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, and for other purposes. (emphasis mine)

From Thomas:


(a) In General- Section 103(f) of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (18 U.S.C. 922 note) is amended by inserting `, notwithstanding any regulation prescribed under section 40119(b) of title 49, United States Code’ before the period.

(b) Transfer or Other Disposition of Firearm to Such Persons– Section 922(d) of title 18, United States Code, is amended–

(1) by striking `or’ at the end of paragraph (8);

(2) by striking the period at the end of paragraph (9) and inserting `; or’; and

(3) by inserting after paragraph (9) the following:

`(10) is an individual who is required, under regulations prescribed under section 114(h) of title 49, United States Code, to be prevented from boarding an aircraft.’.

(c) Shipment, Transport, Possession, or Receipt of Firearm by Such Persons- Section 922(g) of title 18, United States Code, is amended–

(1) by striking `or’ at the end of paragraph (8);

(2) by striking the comma at the end of paragraph (9) and inserting `; or’; and

(3) by inserting after paragraph (9) the following:

`(10) who is an individual who is required, under regulations prescribed under section 114(h) of title 49, United States Code, to be prevented from boarding an aircraft,’.

United States Code, Title 49, Section 114(h) states:

(h) Management of Security Information.— In consultation with the Transportation Security Oversight Board, the Under Secretary shall—

  • (1) enter into memoranda of understanding with Federal agencies or other entities to share or otherwise cross-check as necessary data on individuals identified on Federal agency databases who may pose a risk to transportation or national security;
  • (2) establish procedures for notifying the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration, appropriate State and local law enforcement officials, and airport or airline security officers of the identity of individuals known to pose, or suspected of posing, a risk of air piracy or terrorism or a threat to airline or passenger safety;
  • (3) in consultation with other appropriate Federal agencies and air carriers, establish policies and procedures requiring air carriers—
  • (A) to use information from government agencies to identify individuals on passenger lists who may be a threat to civil aviation or national security; and
  • (B) if such an individual is identified, notify appropriate law enforcement agencies, prevent the individual from boarding an aircraft, or take other appropriate action with respect to that individual; and (this is your no-fly list; emphasis mine)
  • (4) consider requiring passenger air carriers to share passenger lists with appropriate Federal agencies for the purpose of identifying individuals who may pose a threat to aviation safety or national security.

Just one more attempt at taking away the safeguards of the 2nd Amendment against tyranny and abuse of power.  Once again, a politician that is less smart than the rest of us trying to dictate how we should live our lives.  No thanks Twitmo From NY, I outgrew parents many decades ago.

(H/T to the Madman for the tip)

* Here are some examples of the error prone “list”:

False positives and other controversial cases

False positives and abuses that have been in the news include:

  • Numerous children (including many under the age of five, and some under the age of one) have generated false positives.[15][16]
  • Daniel Brown, a United States Marine returning from Iraq, was prevented from boarding a flight home in April 2006 because his name matched one on the No Fly List. The rest of his company refused to leave the airport until Brown was allowed to board.[17]
  • David Fathi, an attorney for the ACLU of Iranian descent and a plaintiff in the ACLU lawsuit.[18]
  • Asif Iqbal, a management consultant and legal resident of the United States born in Pakistan, plans to sue the U.S. government because he is regularly detained when he tries to fly, because he has the same name as a former Guantanamo detainee.[19][20] Iqbal’s work requires a lot of travel, and, even though the Guantanamo detainee has been released, his name remains on the No Fly List, and Iqbal the software consultant experiences frequent, unpredictable delays and missed flights.[21] He is pushing for a photo ID and birthdate matching system, in addition to the current system of checking names.[22]
  • Robert J. Johnson, a surgeon and a former lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army, was told in 2006 that he was on the list, although he had had no problem in flying the month before. Johnson was running as a Democrat against U.S. Representative John McHugh, a Republican. Johnson wondered whether he was on the list because of his opposition to the Iraq War. He stated, “This could just be a government screw-up, but I don’t know, and they won’t tell me.”[23] Later, a 60 Minutes report brought together 12 men named Robert Johnson, all of whom had experienced problems in airports with being pulled aside and interrogated. The report suggested that the individual whose name was intended to be on the list was most likely the Robert Johnson who had been convicted of plotting to bomb a movie theater and a Hindu temple in Toronto.[5]
  • In August 2004, Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) told a Senate Judiciary Committee discussing the No Fly List that he had appeared on the list and had been repeatedly delayed at airports. He said it had taken him three weeks of appeals directly to Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge to have him removed from the list. Kennedy said he was eventually told that the name “T Kennedy” was added to the list because it was once used as an alias of a suspected terrorist. There are an estimated 7,000 American men whose legal names correspond to “T Kennedy”. (Senator Kennedy, whose first name is Edward and for whom “Ted” is only a nickname, would not be one of them.) Recognizing that as a U.S. Senator he was in a privileged position of being able to contact Ridge, Kennedy said of “ordinary citizens”: “How are they going to be able to get to be treated fairly and not have their rights abused?”[24] Former mayor of New York City Rudy Giuliani pointed to this incident as an example for the necessity to “rethink aviation security” in an essay on homeland security published while he was seeking the Republican nomination for the 2008 presidential election.[25]
  • U.S. Representative John Lewis (D-GA), widely known for his civil rights advocacy, has been stopped many times.[26]
  • Canadian journalist Patrick Martin has been frequently interrogated while travelling, because of a suspicious individual with the same name.[27]
  • Walter F. Murphy, McCormick Professor of Jurisprudence at Princeton, reported that the following exchange took place at Newark on 1 March 2007, where he was denied a boarding pass “because I [Professor Murphy] was on the Terrorist Watch list.” The airline employee asked, “Have you been in any peace marches? We ban a lot of people from flying because of that.” “I explained,” said professor Murphy, “that I had not so marched but had, in September 2006, given a lecture at Princeton, televised and put on the web, highly critical of George Bush for his many violations of the constitution.” To which the airline employee responded, “That’ll do it.”[29]
  • In September 2004, former pop singer Cat Stevens (who converted to Islam and changed his name to “Yusuf Islam” in 1978) was denied entry into the U.S. after his name was found on the list.[32]
  • In February 2006, U.S. Senator Ted Stevens (R-AK) stated in a committee hearing that his wife Catherine had been subjected to questioning at an airport as to whether she was Cat Stevens due to the similarity of their names.[30][33]
  • U.S. Representative Don Young (R-AK), the 3rd-most senior Republican in the House, was flagged in 2004 after he was mistaken for a “Donald Lee Young”.[34]
  • Some members of the Federal Air Marshal Service have been denied boarding on flights that they were assigned to protect because their names matched those of persons on the no-fly list.[35]
  • In August 2008, CNN reported that an airline captain and retired brigadier general for the United States Air Force has had numerous encounters with security officials when attempting to pilot his own plane.[38]
  • After frequent harassment at airport terminals, a Canadian businessman changed his name to avoid being delayed every time he took a flight.[39]
  • In October 2008, it was revealed that Maryland State Police classified 53 nonviolent political activists as terrorists, and entered their names and personal information on the terrorist watch list.[40] Also, protest groups were entered as terrorist organizations. During a hearing, it was revealed that these individuals and organizations had been placed on the list because of their opposition to the death penalty and the Iraq war.
  • In April 2009, TSA refused to allow an Air France flight from Paris to Mexico to cross U.S. airspace because it was carrying Colombian journalist Hernando Calvo Ospina, who has sharply criticized U.S. foreign policy.[1]
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