For those of you wondering about the truth of the mandatory service requirement (notice the word volunteer has been taken out) section of this bill, here are the facts. “Mandatory service requirement” is back on the table.
This is the actual paragraph from HR1388 that was introduced into the House. When I originally looked at this bill earlier in the week, I could have sworn it was still in the passed House version that went onto the Senate, (and the bookmark for that page no longer works), but no more; a little scrubbing perhaps? From Thomas:
(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.
This whole section; Congressional Commission on Civic Service was removed when it went over to the Senate. There was quite a bit of tuck and hide with this bill starting out as S3577 and then ending up bundled under Ted Kennedy’s S277 Serve America Act; which has now been renamed, “The Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, an Act to reauthorize and reform the national service laws.” Do not even get me started on the ridiculousness of naming this bill after good, ‘ol Ted.
Now for more facts. The “reasonable mandatory service requirement” section of this bill has now been reintroduced by Rep. James McDermott (D-WA) as H.R. 1444; Congressional Commission on Civic Service Act; to establish the Congressional Commission on Civic Service to study methods of improving and promoting volunteerism and national service, and for other purposes.
If you go to the link above and click on text, you will find what I just read:
SEC. 4. DUTIES.
(a) General Purpose- The purpose of the Commission is to gather and analyze information in order to make recommendations to Congress to–
(1) improve the ability of individuals in the United States to serve others and, by doing so, to enhance our Nation and the global community;
(2) train leaders in public service organizations to better utilize individuals committed to national service and volunteerism as they manage human and fiscal resources;
(3) identify and offer solutions to the barriers that make it difficult for some individuals in the United States to volunteer or perform national service; and
(4) build on the foundation of service and volunteer opportunities that are currently available.
(b) Specific Topics- In carrying out its general purpose under subsection (a), the Commission shall address and analyze the following specific topics:
(1) The level of understanding about the current Federal, State, and local volunteer programs and opportunities for service among individuals in the United States.
(2) The issues that deter volunteerism and national service, particularly among young people, and how the identified issues can be overcome.
(3) Whether there is an appropriate role for Federal, State, and local governments in overcoming the issues that deter volunteerism and national service and, if appropriate, how to expand the relationships and partnerships between different levels of government in promoting volunteerism and national service.
(4) Whether existing databases are effective in matching community needs to would-be volunteers and service providers.
(5) The effect on the Nation, on those who serve, and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.
(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.
(7) The need for a public service academy, a 4-year institution that offers a federally funded undergraduate education with a focus on training future public sector leaders.
(8) The means to develop awareness of national service and volunteer opportunities at a young age by creating, expanding, and promoting service options for primary and secondary school students and by raising awareness of existing incentives.
(9) The effectiveness of establishing a training program on college campuses to recruit and educate college students for national service.
(10) The effect on United States diplomacy and foreign policy interests of expanding service opportunities abroad, such as the Peace Corps, and the degree of need and capacity abroad for an expansion.
(11) The constraints that service providers, nonprofit organizations, and State and local agencies face in utilizing federally funded volunteer programs, and how these constraints can be overcome.
(12) Whether current Federal volunteer programs are suited to address the special skills and needs of senior volunteers, and if not, how these programs can be improved such that the Federal government can effectively promote service among the ‘baby boomer’ generation.
(c) Methodology-
(1) PUBLIC HEARINGS- The Commission shall conduct public hearings in various locations around the United States.
Add McDermott’s name and the names of his four co-sponsors; Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-RI), Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger (D-MD), Rep. Christopher Van Hollen (D-MD), and Rep. James Moran (D-VA), to the list of elected government officials that are not upholding their oath to protect the Constitution.
When I have finished reading the whole bill, I will let you know if there are any other goodies inside that we need to start attending to. Are you aware of H.R. 875 and the 40 traitors backing that one?
On a lighter note, I would have to say that Michelle Obama was right about a few things:
Barack Obama will require you to work.
I have been working my butt off since March 2008.
He is going to demand that you shed your cyncism.
Not so much.
That you put down your division.
Uniting the country against the very people that are not upholding their Constitutional oath.
That you come out of your isolation.
I have made so many more new friends and contacts. Networking is gonna be a b**ch, Bambi.
That you come out of your comfort zone.
The trust comfort zone? That one Mishy? Where we believed that our elected officials would actually represent us and uphold the Constitution?
That you push yourselves to do better, and that you engage.
I would say that I am fully engaged as an American Patriot – are you?
Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed…
Thanks for that Bambi! I have learned more about the corruption in Washington, the UN, and the Central Banks than I can stomach.
the mandatory nature of this bill is being denied. please reference the above link.
this is similar to Vista, and will encompass 250k individuals in total. if the chief hoaxter turns this into mandatory service, head for the hills. if this is no more than a glorified Americorps, let the volunteers get their little stipends.
Petunia – HR1388 has no provision for mandatory service – HR1488 is the feasibility study.
celestialdragonfly on March 27, 2009 at 3:54 pm
In regards to HR 875 it’s amazing what you can get people to do if they’re starving……if this is passed it will put many out of buisness and jobs…think of all the jobs lost and incomes…but that’s the least of the problems…there will be food shortages caused by this no doubt!
I want to know when the revolt is going to start to remove a government who no longer listens to it’s people. They are totally out of control. So much of this is so over the top. Then I think of all the expense to even implement this bill and bring it into compliance it’s crazy…then again people will give their gold up, guns and anything when starving. I can see the government also targeting outspoken people who are in the industry, confiscating food in the name of safety and keeping it for themselves or distributing it the way they see fit. Or let it sit until it rots and the farmers can’t do anything with it….the ramifications are stagering.
Total Control is what they want, and I’m just wondering who has the gumption to stop them, or the power????
I think if we can just last two years, but by then they will have changed the constitution and all the laws and Obama and his puppetmasters will have complete control…and who ever they want will be the President for as long as they deem it.
He’s in office because once he’s taken out by the powers that be, it’s going to cause total chaos, people think the riots were bad in California after the Rodney King beating just wait…..then while the races are fighting and killing each other and VULNERABLE we will be attacked by our enemies!!!! I pray that I’m wrong, of coarse there are all sorts of senerios but whatever it is it’s not going to be good. We are going to have to be willing to sacrifice our all in order to preserve our life liberty and constitution! Let alone our freedom that is dwindling by the minute.
tiger, i’m betting the non-existent bank that HR1488 will die a natural death. the fraudster is traversing the country to maintain his street cred; there’s just so much they’re going to risk at this point. next week should be a repeat of his hitlerian presence in berlin. europe will be mocking, we have to post their headlines.
Leo on March 29, 2009 at 5:29 pm
People tend to either credit lawyers and judges far too much or discredit them to the extreme. The truth is lawyers and judges are greatly restricted by the privilege of license or of office. The people who are patriots have far more freedom of action and far less restrictions in our society.
Did you know that any citizen patriot can bring a criminal case against Barrack Hussein Obama in the County in which they reside? You do not have to be an Attorney General to indict a ham sandwich or a Barrack Obama. If a patriot had evidence of a crime committed by the 2008 BO campaign and that patriot presented said evidence to a sympathetic Grand Jury with a charge of conspiracy to commit said crime against Barrack Obama, that patriot could get BO indicted like that proverbial ham sandwich.
You might wonder how you get evidence against BO and members of his 2008 campaign? There were many newspaper, internet blog and TV reports of crimes committed by BO’s campaign workers all across the USA in 2007 and 2008. All you have to do is perform a google search to begin to write your presentation of criminal information for the indictment of BO and his co-conspirators in your County.
You might also give your friendly Sheriff or Police Chief a call and see if you can get some assistance from local law enforcement personnel in gathering evidence against the BO campaign.
George Hayduke on March 30, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Heaven forbid you whiny little f*cks have to give anything back to your country. Just like your incessant whining about paying taxes, as if that’s an imposition on your liberty. I got news for you losers, liberty ain’t free. How many of you opposing some kind of mandatory service have served yourself?
Letty Bromenschenkel on March 30, 2009 at 5:50 pm
MANDATORY::: means something terrible happens if you refuse: google and research: Hitler’s youth camps.
Plus: Obama opens the elevator door: flashes the finger and that evil smirk as he “READS” from his teleprompter “OH NO, not a chance that I will …” THEN when you step into the open door, he shoves you down the elevator shaft and presses the down button to lower the elevator on you.
Response from Red Lemur: Caution Red Lemur Rant Ahead!
George, you fucking ignorant shit! Just how much of your civil rights are you willing to give up? Where does the slippery slope end you stupid fucker? No…wait…I want to revise that, as my father would say, “you stupid chickenfucker”, what part of slippery slope can you not see?
The economic crisis is the Rice Chancellory and the mandatory volunteer service act is the Hitler Youth. Here’s a piece of advice, educate yourself, read the Constitution, NOT READ STUFF INTO IT, Read It!
Two attacks by obots in two days – we are making progress ladies and gentlemen!!
George Hayduke on March 31, 2009 at 4:36 pm
I guess we’d call you CHICKENHAWK eh Diamond Tiger? Where did you serve? Veterans scrape shit like you off the bottom of their boots. I bet you had “other priorities” like your hero DICK Cheney. Or a boil on your fat ass like your hero Boss Limbaugh. Always too happy to let someone else fight your oily wars. But instead of serving yourself, turn tail and run like the fucking unpatriotic CHICKENHAWKS that you are. Wingnut chickenhawks. The worst fucking kind. Make me puke, you maggots.
George? Are you a complete dumbass? You gotta learn to read….the infamous Red Lemur is talking to you – I don’t even waste my time. Get ready, here comes the Lemur’s response to your rudeness.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/18/house-readies-passage-volunteerism-critics-pricey-forced-service/
hi tiger,
the mandatory nature of this bill is being denied. please reference the above link.
this is similar to Vista, and will encompass 250k individuals in total. if the chief hoaxter turns this into mandatory service, head for the hills. if this is no more than a glorified Americorps, let the volunteers
get their little stipends.
Hey Petunia!
My understanding is this is a commission to “study the feasibility of a mandatory service requirement” – which leads to what exactly?
Thanks for the link.
Petunia – HR1388 has no provision for mandatory service – HR1488 is the feasibility study.
In regards to HR 875 it’s amazing what you can get people to do if they’re starving……if this is passed it will put many out of buisness and jobs…think of all the jobs lost and incomes…but that’s the least of the problems…there will be food shortages caused by this no doubt!
I want to know when the revolt is going to start to remove a government who no longer listens to it’s people. They are totally out of control.
So much of this is so over the top. Then I think of all the expense to even implement this bill and bring it into compliance it’s crazy…then again people will give their gold up, guns and anything when starving. I can see the government also targeting outspoken people who are in the industry, confiscating food in the name of safety and keeping it for themselves or distributing it the way they see fit. Or let it sit until it rots and the farmers can’t do anything with it….the ramifications are stagering.
Total Control is what they want, and I’m just wondering who has the gumption to stop them, or the power????
I think if we can just last two years, but by then they will have changed the constitution and all the laws and Obama and his puppetmasters will have complete control…and who ever they want will be the President for as long as they deem it.
He’s in office because once he’s taken out by the powers that be, it’s going to cause total chaos, people think the riots were bad in California after the Rodney King beating just wait…..then while the races are fighting and killing each other and VULNERABLE we will be attacked by our enemies!!!! I pray that I’m wrong, of coarse there are all sorts of senerios but whatever it is it’s not going to be good. We are going to have to be willing to sacrifice our all in order to preserve our life liberty and constitution! Let alone our freedom that is dwindling by the minute.
tiger,
i’m betting the non-existent bank that HR1488 will die a natural death.
the fraudster is traversing the country to maintain his street cred; there’s just so much they’re going to risk at this point.
next week should be a repeat of his hitlerian presence in berlin. europe will be mocking, we have to post their headlines.
People tend to either credit lawyers and judges far too much or discredit them to the extreme. The truth is lawyers and judges are greatly restricted by the privilege of license or of office. The people who are patriots have far more freedom of action and far less restrictions in our society.
Did you know that any citizen patriot can bring a criminal case against Barrack Hussein Obama in the County in which they reside? You do not have to be an Attorney General to indict a ham sandwich or a Barrack Obama. If a patriot had evidence of a crime committed by the 2008 BO campaign and that patriot presented said evidence to a sympathetic Grand Jury with a charge of conspiracy to commit said crime against Barrack Obama, that patriot could get BO indicted like that proverbial ham sandwich.
You might wonder how you get evidence against BO and members of his 2008 campaign? There were many newspaper, internet blog and TV reports of crimes committed by BO’s campaign workers all across the USA in 2007 and 2008. All you have to do is perform a google search to begin to write your presentation of criminal information for the indictment of BO and his co-conspirators in your County.
You might also give your friendly Sheriff or Police Chief a call and see if you can get some assistance from local law enforcement personnel in gathering evidence against the BO campaign.
Heaven forbid you whiny little f*cks have to give anything back to your country. Just like your incessant whining about paying taxes, as if that’s an imposition on your liberty. I got news for you losers, liberty ain’t free. How many of you opposing some kind of mandatory service have served yourself?
MANDATORY::: means something terrible happens if you refuse:
google and research: Hitler’s youth camps.
Plus: Obama opens the elevator door: flashes the finger and that evil smirk as he “READS” from his teleprompter “OH NO, not a chance that I will …” THEN when you step into the open door, he shoves you down the elevator shaft and presses the down button to lower the elevator on you.
Response from Red Lemur: Caution Red Lemur Rant Ahead!
George, you fucking ignorant shit! Just how much of your civil rights are you willing to give up? Where does the slippery slope end you stupid fucker? No…wait…I want to revise that, as my father would say, “you stupid chickenfucker”, what part of slippery slope can you not see?
The economic crisis is the Rice Chancellory and the mandatory volunteer service act is the Hitler Youth. Here’s a piece of advice, educate yourself, read the Constitution, NOT READ STUFF INTO IT, Read It!
Two attacks by obots in two days – we are making progress ladies and gentlemen!!
I guess we’d call you CHICKENHAWK eh Diamond Tiger? Where did you serve? Veterans scrape shit like you off the bottom of their boots. I bet you had “other priorities” like your hero DICK Cheney. Or a boil on your fat ass like your hero Boss Limbaugh. Always too happy to let someone else fight your oily wars. But instead of serving yourself, turn tail and run like the fucking unpatriotic CHICKENHAWKS that you are. Wingnut chickenhawks. The worst fucking kind. Make me puke, you maggots.
George? Are you a complete dumbass? You gotta learn to read….the infamous Red Lemur is talking to you – I don’t even waste my time. Get ready, here comes the Lemur’s response to your rudeness.
Response to George from the Red Lemur:
“Blow me…”