AYFKM?: The 14th Amendment Debt Ceiling Phrase Is About The Confederacy During The Civil War!

Enough already with all the talk of Obama using the 14th Amendment to go around the congress and raise the debt ceiling. What a load of crap they are trying to feed you over an amendment that shut out the confederacy from being repaid their loans during the civil war.  Yep, a far stretch to raising a Federal Reserve enabled binge spending debt ceiling in 2011.

Here is the latest from TheHillcom on the shenanigans in the district of criminals, and then the actual meaning of the phrase that is being bantered about.

Legality of ‘Fourteenth amendment solution’ comes under fire

Legal scholars are discrediting the idea that the president has the power to circumvent the debt ceiling set by Congress in order to avoid a government default.

This so-called “14th amendment solution” relies on an interpretation of the amendment that would make it illegal for the federal government to default. Advocates argue that if negotiations to broker an agreement on raising the debt limit break down ahead of an Aug. 2 deadline the president could bypass Congress to avoid defaulting.

Many Democrats and Republicans quickly latched onto the possibility that President Obama may actually have legal authority to raise the debt ceiling without Congressional authorization, prompting questions about the possibility in White House briefings that the president appeared to avoid without flat-out dismissing the idea.

The Treasury Department appeared to fan the flames when in early July, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said threatening a default was “not a credible negotiating strategy” due to the 14th amendment.

Now, the truth from the TenthAmendment Center, (I urge my readers to sign up for their newsletter and toss them some kibbies if you are so inclined):

Constitutional Sentence Frags

There is one trick that the progressive left likes to use which is to fragmentize the constitution in order to get the meaning that they want. A good example of this is the commerce clause where they use the narrow phrase ‘regulate commerce’ to suggest that congress has the power to regulate commercial activities.

They fail to read the entire sentence which suggest that congress only has the power to regulate commerce between states, Indian tribes, and foreign nations which sounds more like the basic power to control the flow of goods across a border. They hope that the public will not read the document in its entirety and use a few sentence fragments to get the meaning they want.

Recently, in this article it has been reported that Obama is going to ignore the debt cap and is claiming another sentence fragment in the fourteenth amendment. That fragment is “the validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law”. When you take that one sentence fragment as it is it sounds like all public debts are valid but if you look at the entire sentence “The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. ” it says something much different.

The entire sentence basically says all public debts authorized by law (which happen to include pensions and bounties) that were incurred for the suppression of an insurrection or rebellion shall not be questioned. That is about the strangest sentence in the United States constitution that I have ever heard and really seems kind of pointless. The next sentence starts out with “But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States”.

Now it makes sense. This was passed right after the civil war and it is saying all debt occurred in the aid of the union forces shall be valid while all debts incurred for the confederate forces shall not be valid. In other words, the constitution was dissolving all debts that the southern states incurred during the civil war and this amendment essentially made them invalid. The poor suckers who loaned money to the confederacy will not be getting paid back.

This really isn’t about the fourteenth amendment but about the ability of the progressive left to distort the constitution at will in order to get the meaning they want which is why we have to beware of the sentence fragment. A sentence is a complete idea and that idea can only be expressed when the sentence is in its whole.

Any piece of a sentence can not possibly express the idea that the complete sentence that it came from means. Example: “A dog sleeps” is different than “A dog sleeps all the time”. One is describing a bodily function while the other is saying that dogs are lazy. Even the meaning of a sentence by itself can be incomplete without the paragraph it is a part of which is why everyone has to read the constitution in its context in order to understand what it means.

2 thoughts on “AYFKM?: The 14th Amendment Debt Ceiling Phrase Is About The Confederacy During The Civil War!

  1. So then the 14th Amendment can be used as a means to justify REMOVAL OF OBAMA and his useful minions and idiots as per “incurring debts for services for the removal or suppression of insurrection or rebellion?” But I would be happy to volunteer to this for free!!!!!!!

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